Road Rage Shooting in Houston

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4 Angels wrote:to Charles L. Cotton
There are no videos the cameras were broken. If you think the media is telling the truth look at what NBC did to the Zimmerman case. its all about politics. Sheriff up for re-election in Harris county he needs the votes from Acres Home and Bishop Dixon Church.
why did the NAACP and her Atty. show up on the seen? Politics
There's nothing more for us to talk about. If you want to post again, post your real name and I'll make it your username. I find it quite interesting that you show up to post after another Member posting garbage apparently refuses to give his real name either.

Now you want to claim the Sheriff's Dept. and apparently the DA's office (Pat Lykos isn't running in November) refuse to conduct an honest and thorough investigation because of an election year. If you think siding with a black woman who killed a white man helps a candidate in Harris County, then you don't have a clue about Texas politics. It is quite the opposite; it's a very brave thing for a candidate to do. You might try making that argument for Houston, but not for Harris County that is solidly Republican. In short, your position is 1) don't believe the Sheriff's investigators; 2) don't trust the District Attorney's Office; 3) don't trust a grand jury; but 4) take the word of friends and family members of the deceased, none of whom were at the scene.

I thought we had a rational, although emotional, discussion going. I was wrong.

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Barstoolguru, your posts have been deleted. I've already told you to post your real name or you won't be posting again.

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Charles L. Cotton wrote:Barstoolguru, your posts have been deleted. I've already told you to post your real name or you won't be posting again.

Chas.

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She was charged with murder today

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I don't have an opinion here (guilty/not guilty)....it is just a very serious and sad day.
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mamabearCali wrote:I don't have an opinion here (guilty/not guilty)....it is just a very serious and sad day.
I'm with you on that.

Not being there at the time leaves us in the dark...except for what the media wants us to hear...and that is wrong most of the time.
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If nothing else, this episode has been a good reminder that relying to media reports to determined what actually happened is fraught with difficulties and uncertainties. While it is instructional, and natural, to discuss events like this, one must keep a certain level of flexibility for the facts which may not be apparent or disclosed until some later time.

The media is not to be trusted, not only because of frequent biases, but because they oftentimes don't understand the ramifications of what they are told or see, and consequently over emphasize some aspects, neglecting other aspects entirely, and it is all but impossible to figure out which at the time.
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I must have missed this when it happened. My wife relayed the story to me she heard on the TV news today. Her telling me the story sort of colors it in how she perceived the incident. If her telling of the news story is any indication, the lady is in a lot of trouble. Apparently there were a lot of witnesses at a filling station across the street. They apparently saw nothing unusual until the woman shot through the open window of her car. I asked did they say that the man reached into the car to grab the woman and she said no. My wife said the newscasters said things like, a Concealed Handgun License isn't a license to kill.

She said the photos of the man who was killed all showed a good looking young white male, my wife said things like "he had no tattoos"," didn't look dangerous at all." She said the woman who shot him was African-American.

This could be a reverse of the Trayvon Martin case with the exception that we have a woman and she has no injuries what so ever. My wife said the woman "was in fear of her life" and that was the reason she shot him.

My wife also pointed out, if she felt it was road rage, why didn't she pull into the gas station to stop, where there were lots of people, instead of on the side of the road.
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philip964 wrote: My wife also pointed out, if she felt it was road rage, why didn't she pull into the gas station to stop, where there were lots of people, instead of on the side of the road.
I was under the impression she DID pull in to the gas station :headscratch
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JALLEN wrote:If nothing else, this episode has been a good reminder that relying to media reports to determined what actually happened is fraught with difficulties and uncertainties. While it is instructional, and natural, to discuss events like this, one must keep a certain level of flexibility for the facts which may not be apparent or disclosed until some later time.

The media is not to be trusted, not only because of frequent biases, but because they oftentimes don't understand the ramifications of what they are told or see, and consequently over emphasize some aspects, neglecting other aspects entirely, and it is all but impossible to figure out which at the time.
Very true...
And still, it was not just the media reports that colored many (my own included) opinions of what we "thought" might have happened as we waiting for the "rest of the story" When you have Law enforcement on site, investigating, and releasing the person on site... that weighs heavily in the "give um the benefit of doubt" column.

At this point, there will be an outcome from the trial, but we will never know what happened, only the end result of what two opposing lawyers were able to best convince the judge or jury of.
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E.Marquez wrote:... only the end result of what two opposing lawyers were able to best convince the judge or jury of.
very true.

And, in the end, the only one's who win are the lawyers-- as usual.
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May have been posted earlier, just too lazy to go back and check.

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i am glad that she was indicted. i am getting sick of the excuse "i feared for my life". it is getting out of hand. there are victims who are truly fouled in this game of life, and the perps deserve a penalty--two shots in the chest here--but there are also certain types of "victims" that chose to engage in "flopping", i.e., crying foul at minimal contact. we must have the wisdom to distinguish the two. for example, you are in your car and you have to shoot someone (twice) because they are breaking your window? drive away or, just brandish and call them off. respect human life. this weekend's verdict is another good example. someone wants to be a neighborhood watchman; someone wants to pursue "strangers" walking around. great. but the watchman can't even handle a fight with a stoned teenager who is walking back to his dad's house with some munchies? so watcher-man ends up shooting the stoner as soon as he gets a bloody nose? maybe he shouldn't be a watchman. i wouldn't want him walking around my neighborhood near my teenage sons.
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sodchemist wrote:i am glad that she was indicted. i am getting sick of the excuse "i feared for my life". it is getting out of hand. there are victims who are truly fouled in this game of life, and the perps deserve a penalty--two shots in the chest here--but there are also certain types of "victims" that chose to engage in "flopping", i.e., crying foul at minimal contact. we must have the wisdom to distinguish the two. for example, you are in your car and you have to shoot someone (twice) because they are breaking your window? drive away or, just brandish and call them off. respect human life. this weekend's verdict is another good example. someone wants to be a neighborhood watchman; someone wants to pursue "strangers" walking around. great. but the watchman can't even handle a fight with a stoned teenager who is walking back to his dad's house with some munchies? so watcher-man ends up shooting the stoner as soon as he gets a bloody nose? maybe he shouldn't be a watchman. i wouldn't want him walking around my neighborhood near my teenage sons.
Let's hear you say it isn't justified when you are the one getting your head smacked against the sidewalk and beat up. The jury has spoken and did the right thing.

As for the woman in Houston, there must be enough evidence to say I may not have been justified. I say we let the court determine this one too.

I will also guess you must not have a CHL. :totap:
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i do have a chl. and nice sig 220. and a new iwb holster that i picked up at the waco gun show this weekend. but the accessories that cause THIS opinion are my two sons--whom are typical boys--and my fear of the Lord.
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