Motorcyclist Clocked at 193 on NY Highway - IN THE RAIN!

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Re: Motorcyclist Clocked at 193 on NY Highway - IN THE RAIN!

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bronco78 wrote:Funny, some of the same comments and attitude seen here in this thread, come from Anti gun owners about them crazy people that have to have a gun. Or carry a LOADED one in public :totap:

Bronco, sorry you feel this way, try going to Motohouston .com and see how we treat the same riders when they come on there saying hey doods I did this, and be prepared for really colorful language because we flame them to th Nth degree, stoopid is stoopid and it makes all of us as riders look bad, I personally don't need any help in getting stopped by LEO's, nor do I need some yahoo riding a superbike at stoopid speeds drawing attention of naysayers to my bike. so yea I have a bad attitude when a guy does something like this and yep I flame em. and yes I ride what is classed as a superbike but not at rediculuous speeds or in outrageous manner. :rules:
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Re: Motorcyclist Clocked at 193 on NY Highway - IN THE RAIN!

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I was not advocating this specific persons action..
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What I was commenting on was the attitude presented, which is much like the attitude presented from folks that think guns are bad, and dangerous, no matter how much YOU think they are not, and they are just a tool ... MANY think the mere possession of a gun is or should be a crime. never mind you lunatics that own more then one, keep them loaded or god forbid you really crazy paranoid ones that CARRY them around in public loaded. .. That is the same attitude displayed by some here about this topic.

I, see that same attitude, that same condescending tone in posts here about this topic.... again, I do not personally condone riding 193 MPH on a public street where there are other persons that can hurt, who are not participating in that event.
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Re: Motorcyclist Clocked at 193 on NY Highway - IN THE RAIN!

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...speaking only for myself, I wasn't against the bike or him having it...just the fool's actions with it...no connection to the gun thing you brought up...it's the PERSON that's the problem, not the OBJECT they use to show their idiocy with...I don't see any condescension here...just well-deserved outrage and scorn...he earned everything that was said here about him...
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Re: Motorcyclist Clocked at 193 on NY Highway - IN THE RAIN!

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speedsix wrote:...speaking only for myself, I wasn't against the bike or him having it...just the fool's actions with it...no connection to the gun thing you brought up...it's the PERSON that's the problem, not the OBJECT they use to show their idiocy with...I don't see any condescension here...just well-deserved outrage and scorn...he earned everything that was said here about him...
That's what I was getting at.
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Re: Motorcyclist Clocked at 193 on NY Highway - IN THE RAIN!

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bronco78 wrote:I was not advocating this specific persons action..
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What I was commenting on was the attitude presented, which is much like the attitude presented from folks that think guns are bad, and dangerous, no matter how much YOU think they are not, and they are just a tool ... MANY think the mere possession of a gun is or should be a crime. never mind you lunatics that own more then one, keep them loaded or god forbid you really crazy paranoid ones that CARRY them around in public loaded. .. That is the same attitude displayed by some here about this topic.

I, see that same attitude, that same condescending tone in posts here about this topic.... again, I do not personally condone riding 193 MPH on a public street where there are other persons that can hurt, who are not participating in that event.
I see your point. The law makers in IL, NY and NJ do, too because they have passed and enforce laws that restrict gun ownership and the right to carry guns in accordance with the irrational fears that many anti-gun people have.

NJ also has a law that restricts your right as a citizen to pump your own gas. It is for your own safety. The fact that 48 other States don't have that same law and there has been no wild outbreak of citizen death doesn't mean anything. NJ's law is still the law, based either on an irrational fear or some special interest group trying to preserve the jobs of the people who pump gas in NJ. But the reason behind the law doesn't matter. The law is the law.

The law was the basis for my sarcastic comments about the motorcycle rider's conduct. 193mp is probably 3 times the legal limit on the road involved. Outside of the Autobahn, I'm not aware of any road that has been engineered for 200mph. There are documented traffic safety studies that show steering and braking in any vehicle are adversely affected wet roads. It is a legal requirement in most States for a motorist to reduce speed in adverse conditions and I believe that a motorist in Texas can be cited for failure to drive reasonably under adverse conditions.

So we have someone who is exceeding the speed limit by three times driving in conditions where even that speed limit might not apply. What would happen to a person caught exceeding the blood alcohol limit by 3 times? Personally, I don't see a lot of difference between them. But my personal opinion about the motorcycle rider's conduct, like the personal opinions of the anti-gun people about my carrying a firearm, doesn't apply.

We will likely visit NJ this summer, reluctant as I am to do so. When I go there, I will be unarmed because I respect their gun laws, even if I believe that those laws are ridiculous. The good people of NJ have (supposedly) elected officials who passed those laws. If I elected to do otherwise and were caught, I would be looking at a lot of jail time. The guy on the motorcycle should be in no different position that I would be. The law is the law.
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