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Re: Notorious Hollow Point bullets

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Thomas wrote:
wgoforth wrote:a CHL instructor and former cop I know, Robert Green, called Kenneth Cooper today... and he said he was actually a very nice fellow and was furious the paper distorted his words. He said he never used the term "cop killer bullets" that the editor added that. And that what he said was most thugs use FMJ's because they are cheap.
Texas is a one-party state, so let's say you were giving an interview and you secretly were recording it. Then let's say the newspaper grossly misquoted you. Is there any legal remedy?
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If I was an upstanding person who dealt with guns professionally, I think that would expose me to ridicule in the gun community as well as subject me to financial injury because gun people wouldn't take me seriously as a professional and take their business elsewhere. Would I have to prove financial injury?
Dunno... but i know even when the paper was sympathetic to me in my son's heart failure, the reporter put in direct quotes things she said as though it were me, and put in quotes things that were never said at all.
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Re: Notorious Hollow Point bullets

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Wes wrote:I have Federal Personal Defense, Low Recoil, Hydra-Shock Hollow Points loaded in all three of my hand guns for carry purposes.
That's my normal defensive load in my little 3" barreled, aluminum framed Kimber .45.
I've even been known to load it with the evil Black Talons.

I always use some sort of reasonably high-tech JHP in any defensive handgun.
So do the cops that I know of.
Why? Because it has a much better chance of ending a fight than does FMJ ammo. :roll:

If some yankee thinks this is wrong, that's not going to affect what's in my pistols. And my pistols aren't going to affect them either. I don't know the exact range of a .40 S&W or .45 ACP, but I'm pretty sure people in NY and NJ are safe from my guns in West Texas.
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Heartland Patriot wrote:You have to look at the market for the NY Post...yes, folks in a lot of places read it, but its primarily for consumption up there...and keeping people up there ignorant about this stuff is all part of the game. They don't report "the news", they spin it into propaganda. My disgust with "the media" and "journalists" will not be abated any time soon, I'm certain of that.
I'll reconsider my opinion of the MSM once mass treason trials have been completed and appropriate punishments have been adjudicated.
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03Lightningrocks wrote:Thanks for the explanation. Remembering your history from some of your posts on this forum, I have no doubt you know of what you speak.

The only sidebar I would like to mention is something I noticed back when I would travel to that part of the country while drag racing. One of our big races was at Englishtown. You probably know the area. It use to amuse me how many of the fellers from the Jersey area perceived guns. I think they saw them as having a soul or something. "Guns are bad" seemed to be the prevailing thought. Hollow point bullets were even more evil. Just the sight of a hollow point round would cause a major controversial conversation. I always laughed and blamed it on something in the water.

Then you could drive a few miles over the border into PA and find friendlies. It was strange for a feller coming from a State as large as Texas to realize fifty miles is all that separated liberal strongholds from conservative strongholds. I always found that part of the country interesting but never thought I would want to live in it.

Over 30 years ago when I was in college on the east coast, we universally referred to New Jersey as a certain excretory orifice of America.
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VMI77 wrote:
03Lightningrocks wrote:Thanks for the explanation. Remembering your history from some of your posts on this forum, I have no doubt you know of what you speak.

The only sidebar I would like to mention is something I noticed back when I would travel to that part of the country while drag racing. One of our big races was at Englishtown. You probably know the area. It use to amuse me how many of the fellers from the Jersey area perceived guns. I think they saw them as having a soul or something. "Guns are bad" seemed to be the prevailing thought. Hollow point bullets were even more evil. Just the sight of a hollow point round would cause a major controversial conversation. I always laughed and blamed it on something in the water.

Then you could drive a few miles over the border into PA and find friendlies. It was strange for a feller coming from a State as large as Texas to realize fifty miles is all that separated liberal strongholds from conservative strongholds. I always found that part of the country interesting but never thought I would want to live in it.

Over 30 years ago when I was in college on the east coast, we universally referred to New Jersey as THE "certain excretory orifice" of America.
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