PA: Bat-wielding dad & son meet .40 Ruger. 1 dead.

[Jumping Frog]

, let's hope the father is charged with his son's death.

The father should go to jail since his accomplice, his son, died in the commission of a felony against the boyfriend.

[tbrown]

There were no good guys here.

Definitely no good gals.

The government lawyer is funny though. "Montgomery County District Attorney Risa Vetri Ferman would not identify the shooter," but it happened at his home located "at 1705 Snyder Rd. in Upper Frederick Township."

[Oldgringo]

Merciful Heavens, there sure is a lot of judging going on here by folk who weren't there.

What does the good book say about that?

[tbrown]

What does the good book say about that?

Love thy neighbor's wife as thyself.

[Heartland Patriot]

...As for the rest of it, if my wife called me to pick her up from her boyfriend's house, I wouldn't show up with a bat because I wouldn't be showing up at all. The wife may have questionable morals and questionable intelligence but the husband has no sense at all handling the situation the way he did.

Look around, people between age 35 and 45 oftimes have somewhat bizarre goin' ons. Some work through it, some don't. Just sayin...

I really don't see what the ages of the people involved had to do with anything. Stupid people do stupid stuff, whether they are young or old, or in between.

[Heartland Patriot]

...Grandpa used to say "You lay down with dogs, you get up with fleas"...clean livin's still in style...

Sir, mine told me the same thing...I think it still happens to be true.

[speedsix]

Merciful Heavens, there sure is a lot of judging going on here by folk who weren't there.

What does the good book say about that?

...there's a big difference between judging(condemning) and discerning from the facts given what happened...the country's in a big mess because it's become politically incorrect and unpopular for us as citizens and even pastors from the pulpit to call sin sin...and say "this is right and this is wrong"...being compassionate and merciful doesn't mean saying "that's OK"...it means saying "You did something wrong, but there is forgiveness available..."

...how can we clean up our society...if we can't name the dirt??? all any of us can do is to gather the facts as presented, in this case by a news article, and draw conclusions from them...the Good Book is full of examples where the sin was forgiven...after it was called exactly what it was, and the sinner repented...so shame on us??? NOT...

[Oldgringo]

Merciful Heavens, there sure is a lot of judging going on here by folk who weren't there.

What does the good book say about that?

...there's a big difference between judging(condemning) and discerning from the facts given what happened...the country's in a big mess because it's become politically incorrect and unpopular for us as citizens and even pastors from the pulpit to call sin sin...and say "this is right and this is wrong"...being compassionate and merciful doesn't mean saying "that's OK"...it means saying "You did something wrong, but there is forgiveness available..."

...how can we clean up our society...if we can't name the dirt??? all any of us can do is to gather the facts as presented, in this case by a news article, and draw conclusions from them...the Good Book is full of examples where the sin was forgiven...after it was called exactly what it was, and the sinner repented...so shame on us??? NOT...

...uh, okay...

[Oldgringo]

...As for the rest of it, if my wife called me to pick her up from her boyfriend's house, I wouldn't show up with a bat because I wouldn't be showing up at all. The wife may have questionable morals and questionable intelligence but the husband has no sense at all handling the situation the way he did.

Look around, people between age 35 and 45 oftimes have somewhat bizarre goin' ons. Some work through it, some don't. Just sayin...

I really don't see what the ages of the people involved had to do with anything. Stupid people do stupid stuff, whether they are young or old, or in between.

...and I hope you never do. You're right about the stupid part, it's everywhere, it's everywhere.

[apostate]

What does the good book say about that?

Somehow I get the feeling you're not talking about Genesis 38:9

[Oldgringo]

What does the good book say about that?

Somehow I get the feeling you're not talking about Genesis 38:9

That Onan was a dude, wasn't he? Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of Matthew 7:1 but discussions of religion are not allowed and I'm weary of being censored.

I was thinking also of the Indian expression about ...walking a mile in another's shoes...

[speedsix]

...which reminds me of an old saying Tarzan said: "A wise monkey don't monkey with another monkey's monkey"...

[strider67]

Better a good enemy than a bad.......parent?

[Medic624]

I was thinking also of the Indian expression about ...walking a mile in another's shoes...

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes.  That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.  ~Jack Handey

I'm sorry I just always loved that one....

[stroo]

First, the Good Book calls us to be discerning of sin as well as forgiving. But discernment comes first.

Second, in my experience, those that at least follow the last five of the ten commandments tend to have better lives than those that don't. Following all ten is better yet.

Third, calling out sin by itself is not judgement. Only God can judge. Anyone who thinks they can determine where someone else will go at death is playing god and violating the first couple of commandments. Not a good idea.

Fourth, our society would be much better off if we went back to recognizing sin for what it is while forgiving the repentant.