FL: Boat rage

[seamusTX]

In the Intracoastal Waterway near Riviera Beach, Florida, Sunday one man allegedly shot two others in an argument over ownership and registration of a sailboat.

The alleged shooter was arrested and charged with two counts of second-degree murder.

None of these people were kids or the other usual suspects in this type of crime.

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That's why they have lawyers, dude.

- Jim

[WildBill]

That's why they have lawyers, dude. - Jim

A very senseless shooting.

[Ameer]

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That's why they have lawyers, dude.

They should have sent the lawyers to evict him instead of trying to save a few bucks.

[WildBill]

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That's why they have lawyers, dude.

They should have sent the lawyers to evict him instead of trying to save a few bucks.

This is not a house, and lawyers do not evict people.

[seamusTX]

Technicalities.

Property disputes, failure to pay debts, etc., have to be settled in civil court, not by shooting. Nobody who tries this kind of thing gets away with it. Must be something in the water in Florida that makes them think they could.

- Jim

[Ameer]

Did you read the story WildBill?

"Raymond was selling the boat to the man that was on it, and the man had never paid him for the boat yet and he was getting citations for not registering the boat, so they went out there to evict the man from the boat," Doerre said.

They should have let the lawyers handle it instead of taking matters into their own hands.

[WildBill]

Did you read the story WildBill?

"Raymond was selling the boat to the man that was on it, and the man had never paid him for the boat yet and he was getting citations for not registering the boat, so they went out there to evict the man from the boat," Doerre said.

They should have let the lawyers handle it instead of taking matters into their own hands.

Yes, I did and I agree with your last statement.

[4LOKO]

He's a free man now. http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/crime ... 49288.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

On Sept. 6, Palm Beach County Judge Richard Oftedal ruled that Monahan, 65, was justified in shooting Raymond Mohlman and Matthew Vittum under the “Stand Your Ground” law, which gives people the right to shoot if they feel their lives are in danger.

Mohlman and Vittum, who were intoxicated, cornered the disabled veteran in the cabin of his 35-foot sailboat during an argument near Phil Foster Park, according to court records.

“[Monahan] was within his rights to resist their criminal conduct with deadly force,” Oftedal wrote in his ruling.

[seamusTX]

I had a vague recollection of this incident when mamabearCali posted the update today:
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I have a pretty good memory, but keeping track of 12,000 posts stretches it.

There is a lesson here, for me: Initial news reports are always incomplete or erroneous. They often are biased. If you or I try to make a moral judgment based on a news report, we have a good chance of being wrong.

The judge's decision made it very clear that the defender (boat owner who shot two intruders) was justified.

- Jim