Flash Mob robbries

[speedsix]

...OCW had the key...when a group of them is CHARGED AND CONVICTED for Robbery instead of having their wrists slapped for shoplifting, the party will be over and the fad will die...the prosecuters have to take it seriously and hit 'em 'tween the eyes with something strong enough to wake them up...

...let's do a scenario...I'm at Tom Thumb, pickin' up a box of Depends(for a friend, of course)...when one of these clouds of grasshoppers descends and they start grabbin' everything in sight...I get scared and have a heart attack...and shake off my mortal coil and my false teeth...every one of them buzzards can be charged with murder...you think a DA would step up and do it??? we'll see crime drop when we see punishment get more realistic...not until...and I won't intervene past dialing 911...why put myself in that kind of danger over a pair of pantyhose...or 100 pair...ain't gonna happen...

[VMI77]

Here's a question... Let's say that you witness one of these events in progress and decide to intervene. (I'm not saying it's a good idea - just what-if.) It's not worth shooting the kid over a pair of jeans, so you tackle him and attempt to detain him. I believe you'd be within the law to do so - using non-lethal force to prevent theft. Most likely, his buddies are going to swarm on you, attacking you in a 10-on-1 beating. Fearing for your life, you draw and fire on the attackers. Would that be A) justified because of the disparity of force or B) unjustified because you initiated the confrontation by trying to detain the kid? I think we can all agree it would be a bad situation, but I'm curious as to the legal considerations.

As a CHL holders we've all decided to take responsibility for our own security and self-defense, so I'm puzzled.....why would a CHL holder risk financial ruin, prison, injury, or death, to protect some commercial operation from theft when they've obviously decided not to spend any of their own money on their own security? This isn't like coming to the aid of neighbor or an old lady in a parking lot. You're talking about a commercial enterprise that has decided it's cheaper to let people steal, rob, or murder, than to pay for the security required to prevent it. If it's a corporate operation they probably have policies that prohibit employees from even defending their lives. No one is providing free security for me and mine. If a store wants to prevent theft like this then they need to pay for the security they need to prevent it.

[i8godzilla]

...OCW had the key...when a group of them is CHARGED AND CONVICTED for Robbery instead of having their wrists slapped for shoplifting, the party will be over and the fad will die...the prosecuters have to take it seriously and hit 'em 'tween the eyes with something strong enough to wake them up...

...let's do a scenario...I'm at Tom Thumb, pickin' up a box of Depends(for a friend, of course)...when one of these clouds of grasshoppers descends and they start grabbin' everything in sight...I get scared and have a heart attack...and shake off my mortal coil and my false teeth...every one of them buzzards can be charged with murder...you think a DA would step up and do it??? we'll see crime drop when we see punishment get more realistic...not until...and I won't intervene past dialing 911...why put myself in that kind of danger over a pair of pantyhose...or 100 pair...ain't gonna happen...

Would it not be hard to prove a conspiracy charge?

[speedsix]

...conspiracy or dollar amount stolen...either would work...or the slightest threat or even brushing someone out of their way as they fled...many things make it robbery...

...I heard when they do catch a herd of 'em...they're gonna try 'em on Judge Judy...oughta be good for a week of episodes...they'll never do wrong no more, honest!!!

[Big Tuna]

Why are you guys shocked that these people feel like they can walk into a store and take whatever they want? Why should it matter that they did nothing to earn it or that it's the fruit of someone else's labor? They're just following the role model of Obamacare and other wealth distribution schemes.