Gunman dead after opening fire at Florida school meeting

[KD5NRH]

How was this guy allowed to have a gun again?

The same way he was allowed to carry one right past the elven-magic no-guns field.

[Excaliber]

A few agree, but those are comments from people who believe that no one at all distilled nor drank moonshine during prohibition .... because there was a law against it.

And people who believe that they are safer in Mexico where guns are illegal, than in Switzerland where the military sells excess weaponry to civilians.

I envision those comments coming from young ladies in their "little house on the prairie" dresses, sitting with their 5 children, after hand washing the dishes after Supper, waiting for husband Clem to return from fetching firewood for the night.

Self reliant folks tend to be pretty well grounded because reality is a thorough teacher. Those comments are much more likely to have come from a suburban housewife who voted for Obama and typed the comments on her iPhone while her 5 year old played unsupervised in the street.

[Excaliber]

I cant believe not a man in the place took advantage of the opportunity she gave them.

That's because the only man in the place was the woman with the purse.

[Poldark]

Interview with the shooters wife.

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[AEA]

He was not experienced with using a handgun. His missed shots, and did anyone notice that after he fired one or two shots at the counclman, he lowered the gun in front of him and inadvertently shot off a round into the desk/floor? You can see his reaction when this shot was fired unexpectedly.

[Keith B]

This woman is as out of touch and potentially as dangerous as her husband. She never condemns what he did, and says 'It was wrong in the eyes of the law', which means she thinks it was justified to go in with a gun. Sheesh! At least one good thing is after that interview she won't be likely to get a teaching job again. It would be interesting to find out why she was released from her previous teaching job to begin with. There may be underlying ties to her husband's actions that lead to her dismissal.

And, her comment about him being 'happy' and upbeat makes me wonder if he wasn't OFF of his medications. Individuals with bi-polar disorder end up with manic/depressive mood swings when off their meds. They tend to get off of their meds around the holidays or special occasions as they 'think' they are better with out them and like the euphoric feeling of well being they get on the manic swing.

I had an individual who worked for me that was bipolar, as well as a co-workers wife who suffered from it. It was very easy to tell when either was off their medication. The employee would be pretty subdued and level with taking his medications, but would be very talkative and react rapidly to things when on his manic swing. We had to force him to take regular weekly blood tests and validate his medication levels as a requirement of employment due to previous issues that we had had from him.

When the co-workers wife was off her meds, she would literally call in to the office and flirt with the guys on the phone. She was pretty good about hiding her mania from her husband. When we would get those phone calls, we would immediately call her husband and advise what had happened and that she must be off her meds again. Within a day or so she would usually end up hospitalized due to the severe swings in mood and have to get her medication levels straightened out again.

[Keith B]

He was not experienced with using a handgun. His missed shots, and did anyone notice that after he fired one or two shots at the counclman, he lowered the gun in front of him and inadvertently shot off a round into the desk/floor? You can see his reaction when this shot was fired unexpectedly.

I am not as sure about him being inexperienced as the fact he wasn't intending to kill anyone. He was there to end his life, as he said 'I am going to die today' (or something like that). I think he intentionally missed the board members while shooting. I believe even an inexperienced shooter would have hit someone at least once from those distances with the number of shots fired.

[AEA]

I can agree with your interpretation of his intent. But the unintended discharge into the desk/floor that obviously surprised him tells me that he has very limited experience in handguns.

[Keith B]

I can agree with your interpretation of his intent. But the unintended discharge into the desk/floor that obviously surprised him tells me that he has very limited experience in handguns.

Or he was so out of it from not being on meds that he was jerky or loopy and just squeezed the trigger unintentionally.

[Scott in Houston]

I think that even a mouse gun in the purse lady's hands would have led to the gunman dying six minutes earlier.

Agreed. Her situation is the best case scenario if you're stuck with only a .380. She or anyone with a .380 could have walked up behind him and put a shot right into his head at point blank range or quickly emptied 7 rounds into his back.

[Scott in Houston]

I think that even a mouse gun in the purse lady's hands would have led to the gunman dying six minutes earlier.

Agreed. Her situation is the best case scenario if you're stuck with only a .380. She or anyone with a .380 could have walked up behind him and put a shot right into his head at point blank range or quickly emptied 7 rounds into his back.

[woodsong]

Thinking about that woman with the purse -- she could probably run for Governor of Florida now and win pulling away.

[Kahrry]

This is hits close to home for me. I recently posted about our company policy forbidding concealed carry or carry of any sort of weapon at all. We have open board meetings like this twice a month with an open forum for any resident to sign in and speak before the board. There have been controversial topics and upset residents address the board. None of them have turned deadly but this proves that desperate people given and opportunity with little security can attempt violent crimes like this.

[Scott in Houston]

This is hits close to home for me. I recently posted about our company policy forbidding concealed carry or carry of any sort of weapon at all. We have open board meetings like this twice a month with an open forum for any resident to sign in and speak before the board. There have been controversial topics and upset residents address the board. None of them have turned deadly but this proves that desperate people given and opportunity with little security can attempt violent crimes like this.

So this begs the question, is your job worth the risk to carry in that meeting?
Only you can answer that question, but I'm typing this just as a reminder that you're not illegally carrying in your company meeting, but you could get fired if caught.
"Some people" might consider it worth the risk to carry for that meeting if they believed they could keep it concealed (concealed means concealed) and never found out. You'd only be found out if you had to use it, and in that situation, who really cares? :)

So it comes down to weighing the odds of needing that gun and saving your life vs. the odds of getting caught carrying and then fired.

That's just my thoughts and opinion which is worth exactly what you paid for it. ;)

[troglodyte]

SROs interview

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40701074/ns ... and_courts" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

He tried to draw Duke outside and when he didn't bite went to his car to get his vest and extra ammo. He was watching through the door waiting for a shot when Duke fired.

I'd ride with him.