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3 Nov 09 RR
Put 100 through the XD-9 SC
100 through the XD-40 SC
and 150 through the XD-40 S
I noticed that I am much more consistant with the 9 than either 40. I can also tell when it is time to rest a little. I start to pull down and left. Can anybody suggest something to help with this?
Another thing, a RO said something that got me to wondering. Are .40's less accurate than other calibers? I did notice a tigher grouping of the 9 vs the .40
100 through the XD-40 SC
and 150 through the XD-40 S
I noticed that I am much more consistant with the 9 than either 40. I can also tell when it is time to rest a little. I start to pull down and left. Can anybody suggest something to help with this?
Another thing, a RO said something that got me to wondering. Are .40's less accurate than other calibers? I did notice a tigher grouping of the 9 vs the .40
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Re: 3 Nov 09 RR
General consensus is it is just as accurate. Scroll to the bottom of this G&A test for example.
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The crimp you're putting on the round could have an affect for sure, I've found. I don't put much of a crimp on my 40's.
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The crimp you're putting on the round could have an affect for sure, I've found. I don't put much of a crimp on my 40's.
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Re: 3 Nov 09 RR
Sure. Stop and rest a little.RocTrac wrote:I can also tell when it is time to rest a little. I start to pull down and left. Can anybody suggest something to help with this?
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Seriously, in real life, no one is going to need to shoot 60 rounds a minute from a handgun. I've seen people do that at the range.
I actually shoot a revolver most of the time, so I'm taking only six shots and intentionally reloading slowly. After every six, I look off into the distance to rest my eyes. If I start to observe "flyers," I put the piece down and stretch.
Have you read the U.S. Army pistol marksmanship training guide?
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Re: 3 Nov 09 RR
No, I sure haven't. I'll see if I can find it somewhere.
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Re: 3 Nov 09 RR
The Army pistol marksmanship training guide is on hundreds of web sites as a PDF or HTML.
It's really an excellent example of our tax dollars at work. It discusses sighting, grip, stance, breathing, and even general health and the effects of legal drugs.
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Re: 3 Nov 09 RR
Up until my last range visit I was pulling slightly low left (9 -10 ring at 7 o'clock).
I was pretty sure I was just anticipating the recoil so I intentionally shot and concentrated on a smooth trigger pull and tried to put the inevitable bang out of my head and just concentrate on holding the sights onto the target point. YMMV but that helped for me.
I also echo the 'take your time' and rest answer to. I used to do target archery and I was told that in archery it takes several seconds for muscles to recover from the exertion off loosing an arrow. I have no reason to believe it is any less time in shooting a handgun, just not quite as much of an exertion on the bigger muscles.
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I was pretty sure I was just anticipating the recoil so I intentionally shot and concentrated on a smooth trigger pull and tried to put the inevitable bang out of my head and just concentrate on holding the sights onto the target point. YMMV but that helped for me.
I also echo the 'take your time' and rest answer to. I used to do target archery and I was told that in archery it takes several seconds for muscles to recover from the exertion off loosing an arrow. I have no reason to believe it is any less time in shooting a handgun, just not quite as much of an exertion on the bigger muscles.
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Re: 3 Nov 09 RR
Just printed out the Army Pistol Training Manual, going to bring it to work to read at lunch, looks like there is some good info in there!
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Re: 3 Nov 09 RR
I believe that it was a combo of fatigue and trigger finger placement/control. I will work on that and take more breaks next range trip.
How many of you shoot on the Ft Worth side of town? Are there any groups that get together for range trips?
How many of you shoot on the Ft Worth side of town? Are there any groups that get together for range trips?
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Re: 3 Nov 09 RR
I shoot at Winchester Gallery during the weekdays. Over the summer I shot weekly. Now that I have my license I've slacked off wayyyyy to much. Down to about once a month or so.RocTrac wrote:I believe that it was a combo of fatigue and trigger finger placement/control. I will work on that and take more breaks next range trip.
How many of you shoot on the Ft Worth side of town? Are there any groups that get together for range trips?
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I'd love to get a group together and shoot sometime!
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Re: 3 Nov 09 RR
Thats is where I have been going. Any body else go there?
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Re: 3 Nov 09 RR
Yeah, but it's...Army.seamusTX wrote:Sure. Stop and rest a little.RocTrac wrote:I can also tell when it is time to rest a little. I start to pull down and left. Can anybody suggest something to help with this?![]()
Seriously, in real life, no one is going to need to shoot 60 rounds a minute from a handgun. I've seen people do that at the range.
I actually shoot a revolver most of the time, so I'm taking only six shots and intentionally reloading slowly. After every six, I look off into the distance to rest my eyes. If I start to observe "flyers," I put the piece down and stretch.
Have you read the U.S. Army pistol marksmanship training guide?
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Re: 3 Nov 09 RR
There's a Marine marksmanship manual also. I have read both and prefer the Army's. (Sorry.)
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Re: 3 Nov 09 RR
Another good range in the FW area is On Target, though they're a little farther west. (Benbrook)
Great bunch of guys there, though. I've never seen it crowded, and I think the lanes are wider than Winchester. (which feels almost claustrophobic to me)
I typically choose to drive the extra distance to OT. FWIW, they stay open later at night than most of the other metroplex ranges, which is great for a night walker like me.
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Great bunch of guys there, though. I've never seen it crowded, and I think the lanes are wider than Winchester. (which feels almost claustrophobic to me)
I typically choose to drive the extra distance to OT. FWIW, they stay open later at night than most of the other metroplex ranges, which is great for a night walker like me.
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Re: 3 Nov 09 RR
I forgot to mention, if you don't regularly do physical labor, all kinds of exercises help improve shooting. I keep a set of 3-lb weights by my desk and lift them when I'm otherwise engaged in something like a phone conversation.
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