Never going to QUAIL CREEK again!

[135boomer]

Hwy boomer, I was in SAC from 69 - 73, where were you??

Jim

I started off a K.I. Siberia in '72. Then on to Mather, Castle, Carswell, and called it quits at Fairchild in 96.

[Jim101]

Boomer,

You had quite the tour. Glad you are here.... Our son has been in the A.F. for 5 yrs. now in A.G.E., he loves it..

Thanks,

Jim

[T45Rex]

Wow. That is just....hmmm.....stupid! :-) I had one runin at our range out of Midland with a self inflated type who was in the wrong.....the difference being the range director didn't back the idiot when I told them about it! LOL. I went shooting last year at a big nice range with my brother in law close to Grapevine where he lives. Place sort of out of town a ways. I remember they were real jerks and it was almost like they didn't want you there shooting. Run by closet liberal infiltrators!!?? (laughing). Must have been the same place. I'll ask Bruce and tell him we need to find another place to shoot next time I'm out!
Greg

[135boomer]

Boomer,

You had quite the tour. Glad you are here.... Our son has been in the A.F. for 5 yrs. now in A.G.E., he loves it..

Thanks,

Jim

Thanks, I'm pretty glad to still be around too. I was lucky and got a great job right from the start. Air refueling can get real interesting real fast so you'd better have your act together.
Ahh, the good old days...



Now, closer to the original subject. I'm thinking about joining the club in Parker county. A bit of a drive, but I think it would be worth it.

[Psyillirabbit]

Looks like I am late to the party, but I'd like to share some of my shooting group's experiences there with "Walt" the range wiz....that is the main RO nazi that causes the most problems.

Not counting the innumerable times that Walt has tried to correct various things such as time between shots, his 2-seconds must be about 5 seconds long, shooting position, etc....here are some of the better craptastic moments that have caused us to vow NEVER to return.

1- Guy in our group buys a new pistol, a Bersa .380. He takes the time to degrease it and properly lube it up per the firearms instructions. He starts experiencing some failure to feeds. Walt proceeds to amble over and give his "expert" opinion that he is shooting a "european" firearm and needs to use "European" ammunition. Interesting I am about 99% sure that Bersa is South American made and the need for European ammunition is just ridicules. THEN, Walt pulls out an oil can and proceeds to drench the pistol in oil to the point that it was literally dripping from it. The problem, BTW ended up being an overly tighy magazine, which was just not broken in.

2- Guy in our group is shooting a pistol, and has been literally since he was a kid, military trained, etc. Walt ambles on over again telling him that he "can not shoot like that" and that he will injure himself. Mind you, this is how this guy has shot his pistol all of his life including military matches. (He used a left thumb on the right wrist, which if positioned wrong MIGHT have gotten him a slide bite, but has not done so in YEARS.)

3- Guy in our group comes out with his kid and Walt throws such a fit in front of the kid about him LOADING a .22 magazine that they just up and leave. Mind you he is not loading the mag into a weapon ,nor is there a weapon even close to him. He is sitting there loading and waiting for a turn to come up and shoot under the close supervision of his father!

4- Several guys in our group kicked off range for the mere possesion of FMJ rounds on the rifle range, not shooting them, just possession of them.

5- Another great Walt moment is when anothe guy in our group was there shooting his .17 revolver. He has the butt of the pistol on a sand bag and is trying to get it zero'd in when Walt decides that him resting the BUTT of the .17 on the bag will hurt the bag and chews him out over it. Interestingly enough, there is a youtube video of a guy with a large magnum revolver on a sandbag and the bag is holding up fine and there is no Walt jumping him butt over it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pwVkCnSA5ak

These are a few reasons why we will NEVER visit Quail Creek Shooting range again, we voted with our cash to spend it elsewhere.

[JDKRIEK]

I've read enough (whole thread).

They have lost my business. I refuse to be subjected to this type of behavior.

I will stick to Bullet Trap in Plano and BassPro in Grapevine

[TexasBuck]

Quail Creek is a dump and has been a dump fpr years. The guys working there have nothing better to do than yell at people .


http://www.advancedgunworks.com

They are about to break ground on indoor range in Roanoke....call them as they are actively seeking input from shooters as well as applications for memberships

[austin]

Thanks for the info.

[TexasKid747]

I took my Wife and young daughter to Quail Creek today, even after reading all the previous posts. At least they warned me in advance of what I might expect.

Luckily, we had no issues with the range officer. The other shooters were very nice, and one let my girls shoot one of their rifles and a pistol, both 22's. We were shooting a circa 1940 Winchester Model 67 and a brand new Marlin 60, along with a Taurus PT92. We had not been to a shooting range in 20 years.

This was a nice experience, knowing what has happened to others. The ranges were both busy and everyone was cautious and well-behaved.

The best part, my 11 year-old is hooked.

Thanks for the warning, I am glad that bahavior was not witnessed otherwise this would be a completely different post.

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This republic was not established by cowards; and cowards will not preserve it.
Elmer Davis

This will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave.
Elmer Davis

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm
not sure about the universe. ~~~Albert Einstein

[AEA]

Musta been the "Range Expert's" day off..........

[htxred]

2- Guy in our group is shooting a pistol, and has been literally since he was a kid, military trained, etc. Walt ambles on over again telling him that he "can not shoot like that" and that he will injure himself. Mind you, this is how this guy has shot his pistol all of his life including military matches. (He used a left thumb on the right wrist, which if positioned wrong MIGHT have gotten him a slide bite, but has not done so in YEARS.)

being military trained now a days does not say much when you have a grip like that. IMO anyway.

[Seabee128]

It would seem ironic that I was reading this thread just prior to me going to the Quail Creek Range. After reading everyone comments, I decided that I will give it a try and judge for myself. I arrived there today around 10:00 am. There were 3 or 4 people on the rifle range and 6 on the pistol range. The individual in the front office greeted me with a smile and I paid the fee and purchased a target. Everything else I need I had with me. I walked out to the range and hot fire was in progress. The RO greeted me and told me I could chose a place on the line. I did so and and then stepped back off the line as there was only one minute left in hot fire. When ready to post targets was given I did and went back behind the line. When hot fire was given, I loaded and fired. I was there for what seemed like three hours. I saw people come and go and there were no incidents or any difficulty with the RO. He did help a young woman who would not listen to her husband and what he told her must have work as her shooting improved greatly. Her husband apparently has been using a firearm for a long time as they were right next to me. He had fired fifty rounds and all were within a 3 inch circle in the 9 zone. I on the other hand was becoming familiar with my new Springfield Armory XDm .40 S&W. Most were together but in the lower left quad which indicated that I am experiencing some finger pull. Over all it was a quite enjoyable event. So I must have had a good day. I don't think that bad guy is there anymore. Only time will tell.

[mgtx]

I live in the Flower Mound/Grapevine area, and Quail Creek and Bass Pro are both about 15 minutes away from me. Would you guys recommend Bass Pro over Quail Creek? I am younger and new to the world of firearms. The handgun I want to shoot (the subcompact XD 9mm) is my first handgun. Previous guns were my dad's so this is the first one I have bought on my own.

I have shopped at bass pro before and I dunno if it was my band tshirt, the fact that I was younger, or the fact that I had long hair, but the guy at the handgun counter acted like I wasn't going to buy anything and that I was some sort of problem or hoodlum. I asked him if he had a type of gun and he said "NO" in a tone that said "go away".

I worry that they'll freak out on me if I stroll up to Bass Pro with a gun case and boxes of ammo. People see a young guy with long hair and they immediately assume he's a druggie or a depressed angry kid out to cause trouble.

Anyway, it sounds like Bass Pro will still be a better choice than Quail Creek.

[The Annoyed Man]

Bass Pro is just fine. I live in Grapevine, and it was my primary range until I joined DPC.

[joseywales]

I live in the Flower Mound/Grapevine area, and Quail Creek and Bass Pro are both about 15 minutes away from me. Would you guys recommend Bass Pro over Quail Creek? I am younger and new to the world of firearms. The handgun I want to shoot (the subcompact XD 9mm) is my first handgun. Previous guns were my dad's so this is the first one I have bought on my own.

I have shopped at bass pro before and I dunno if it was my band tshirt, the fact that I was younger, or the fact that I had long hair, but the guy at the handgun counter acted like I wasn't going to buy anything and that I was some sort of problem or hoodlum. I asked him if he had a type of gun and he said "NO" in a tone that said "go away".

I worry that they'll freak out on me if I stroll up to Bass Pro with a gun case and boxes of ammo. People see a young guy with long hair and they immediately assume he's a druggie or a depressed angry kid out to cause trouble.

Anyway, it sounds like Bass Pro will still be a better choice than Quail Creek.

Agree that Bass Pro is fine for standing target practice at 3-25 yds.
Relatively cheap, MUCH cooler than what's outside (at least, during this time of year).
As to the possible treatment based upon one's appearance - I don't have long hair, and while my wife still says I still "act like I'm 16", I'm a bit older - and the last time I went the folks at the front entry had to trigger-lock all of my guns prior to going into the store/range...and count the ammo boxes, magazines. Unusual - but then so's a pistol range inside of a retail store. Just so you'll know what to expect.

You're actually nearby to the Dallas Pistol club - it's a private shooting club probably 5-6 miles east of Bass Pro on Belt Line Rd.
On most weekends, they have some pretty low-key (beginner friendly) competitions open to general public.
Recommend the 3rd & 4th Sunday steel plate matches. Your XD9 subcompact would work fine.
Check their calendar at http://www.DallasPistolClub.com