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by Ivan244
Thu May 28, 2015 1:25 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: New Guard vs Old Guard
Replies: 16
Views: 4036

Re: New Guard vs Old Guard

mojo84 wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote: The session will be over Monday and on Tuesday I will announce the new initiative I have mentioned earlier in the session. Hopefully, it will rally gun owners an provide a focused political faction that many so desperately want. It will not be in conflict with the NRA; it will provide a mechanism for Texas gun owners to get more involved with the process. It will also reach out to many who are not currently on our side of the issue.

Chas.

I am looking forward to this. We have to all get on the same page.
:iagree: +1
by Ivan244
Thu May 28, 2015 9:14 am
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: New Guard vs Old Guard
Replies: 16
Views: 4036

Re: New Guard vs Old Guard

JSThane wrote:
Ivan244 wrote: Are the Rs this incompetent or do we really need to look at wolfs in sheep clothing aka Straus.
Consider, the legislature's perspective, though. Gun-rights advocates are deeply divided on priorities in Texas. The side whose ideals I, and I imagine many others, agree with, is "represented" in the media, and thus in the legislature's eyes, by OCT/OCTC, and their reprehensible tactics. There is a small side who doesn't want open carry, fearing the loss of business. There's a lot of people scared of the "what-ifs," those who envision every storefront bearing a 30.06/07 sign and barring legal passage. There is a side that is agitating for a simple reduction of penalty for violation of those signs. There is a side agitating for the complete neutering of those signs, and a side fearing the signs will be replaced by something worse. There is a groundswell of support for -something-, but that groundswell has NOT expressed itself as a movement in support of human and Constitutional rights; rather, I have perceived it, and I think many in the legislature perceive it, as fractious and self-contradicting, demanding that "something" be done, but never agreeing on what that thing to be done IS.

The only coherent, cohesive message I have perceived is the anti-rights' side, the side of "no." Is it any wonder the legislature seems to be "doing something" for the sheer hope of placating everyone, only to shuffle that something off to die in committee in order to placate the only consistent message they have heard?
Now there is an interesting thought. Just because we have a lot of gun owners does not necessarily mean we have a concise, consistent message. Maybe the answer is that everyone from all the splinter groups band together for a political/super group. We vote on message, method of messaging etc... That way we can start putting forth a concentrated message rather than a mosh pit of every group speaking for themselves.
by Ivan244
Wed May 27, 2015 9:34 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: New Guard vs Old Guard
Replies: 16
Views: 4036

Re: New Guard vs Old Guard

harrycallahan wrote:I don't know. I'm more inclined to believe that the newer less experienced legislators have opted for the flash in the pan approach and seized on to the 2a band wagon in an effort to make a name for themselves. What You suggest could bear fruit I just haven't seen any evidence of it. What I have witnessed is members of both segments being careless with their positions and being out flanked by an otherwise weaker constituent.
I don't mind tipping my hat to the Dems if the final answer was that they were just better than my side :tiphat: As long as my side *learns* from it and comes back stronger and more motivated to not repeat same mistakes. Unfortunately right now I feel that my own team did more to sabotage than anything the Dems did. That's the tougher pill to swallow is that we had everything you could ask for and still got nothing. If not now when? Are the Rs this incompetent or do we really need to look at wolfs in sheep clothing aka Straus.
by Ivan244
Wed May 27, 2015 9:05 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: New Guard vs Old Guard
Replies: 16
Views: 4036

New Guard vs Old Guard

Question for those who have been following the debacle this session. I recall hearing early on major riffs between the "New Guard" vs the established Rs. Is this a case where we need to either vote out the old guard,or if too entrenched once retiring, make sure we put some more 2A friendly reps into power?

I get that Joe Straus hates CC or at least hates it for his friend UT chancellor sake. Wild conspiracy thought, it seems like the old guard will sacrifice 2A bills so that the Ds will play along for the Pro-Business bills that the Old Guard really wants. But that may just be me being bitter at the moment :coolgleamA:

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