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by M2K
Sat May 14, 2011 11:29 pm
Forum: 2011 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: CALL TO ACTION: SB905
Replies: 172
Views: 73135

Re: CALL TO ACTION: SB905

sugar land dave wrote:
M2K wrote:...Why should I accept your hidden reason at face value?

Mike
Welcome to the board, Mike. Technically you are right, in that a hidden reason has no face value, as it is unseen, not declared. Now, if Charles were the face value, I believe in his sincerity. However there are those yet unseen, undeclared within the amendment push. What are their motives and what price is to be paid? That is what I seem to hear you saying, and I cannot say that you are entirely wrong.

I know everyday people are tired of the Texas politics, but that didn't stop me from voting today. We should participate as best we can when we can. Don't let divisions on either side distract you from thinking your own thoughts. Letting passion overcome reason is not a good thing. Now passion with reason......

I hope you will continue to voice your opinions now that you have joined. I believe you will enjoy it even more than before. :thumbs2:
Thank you for the kind welcome after the previous comments..

I am on the fence about supporting, sitting it out, or opposing the bill.

I did some research on John Woods in the last few minutes and if he is who I think he is the previous poster was trying to insult me or at least as they say “get my goat”.

Just for the record; I am very conservative and have served my country in various capacities for nearly 40 years.

Mike
by M2K
Sat May 14, 2011 11:12 pm
Forum: 2011 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: CALL TO ACTION: SB905
Replies: 172
Views: 73135

Re: CALL TO ACTION: SB905

74novaman wrote:
M2K wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:Our newly joined members who have focused on this thread and bill need to look at my earlier post. I'm not saying SB905 is a good bill; I'm asking people to support the Kleinschmidt amendment to SB905. As many have said, there is a reason for this but I can't say at this time.

Chas.
I've read your earlier posts and most everything on this board for the last few years. It is one of the better boards on the internet consisting of a very intelligent membership. I’m usually not a “joiner” but I joined this board because I just couldn't stand the implied arrogance and elitism of this bill and the Kleinschmidt amendment.

Why should I accept your hidden reason at face value?

Mike
Then don't accept it. Don't call in support. But you've stated you lurked here for several years. Do you think antis don't watch to see what were up to? Why show our hand? Charles has proven time and time again to have the interests of all Texas chls as his guiding principles. You have 2 posts. For all we know you're John woods. Respectfully, he has nothing to prove to you.

I don't who is John Woods?

That's 3 posts now 4 seeing as you're counting.
by M2K
Sat May 14, 2011 10:34 pm
Forum: 2011 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: CALL TO ACTION: SB905
Replies: 172
Views: 73135

Re: CALL TO ACTION: SB905

Charles L. Cotton wrote:Our newly joined members who have focused on this thread and bill need to look at my earlier post. I'm not saying SB905 is a good bill; I'm asking people to support the Kleinschmidt amendment to SB905. As many have said, there is a reason for this but I can't say at this time.

Chas.
I've read your earlier posts and most everything on this board for the last few years. It is one of the better boards on the internet consisting of a very intelligent membership. I’m usually not a “joiner” but I joined this board because I just couldn't stand the implied arrogance and elitism of this bill and the Kleinschmidt amendment.

Why should I accept your hidden reason at face value?

Mike
by M2K
Sat May 14, 2011 8:00 pm
Forum: 2011 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: CALL TO ACTION: SB905
Replies: 172
Views: 73135

Re: CALL TO ACTION: SB905

+10000000000 :iagree:


TexasBill wrote:Amendment or no, I can't support SB905. In fact, I am ashamed that Dan Patrick, the conservative Republican senator who represents my district, was one of the authors of this totally unnecessary bill.

The claim, voiced by Sen. Patrick, is that legislators, judges, statewide elected officials and others, like non-commissioned employees of the Department of Public Safety are high-profile targets for assassins. For some reason, the Governor, city mayors, elected municipal and county officials and non-sworn employees of the state's police and county sheriff departments are not. Let's look at the facts: since 1815, exactly 19 people who would qualify under SB905 have been assassinated in the United States. One was in Texas (John Woods, a federal judge, killed by a hitman for a Mexican drug lord in 1979). Ten of those killings occurred in the last 100 years. Likewise, ten happened in the period from 1871, when the Texas Legislature stripped the citizens of Texas of the right to legally carry a handgun at all, until 1995, when George W. Bush signed a limited restoration of those rights under strict state control. That's ten in the entire country; I'll bet a lot more than ten Texan citizens were murdered in that period who would have been alive had they or another citizen been able to legally carry a handgun. Heck, we lost more than ten at Luby's in 1991!

To put the numbers in another perspective, whooping cough, scarlet fever and malaria are rare in the United States. Yet more Americans died of those diseases in 2007 alone than all federal and state legislators and judges assassinated in the last century.

Here's another kicker: Not one of these assassinations took place in a location that would be authorized by SB905. Most happened either in the victim's home or at the victim's place of work. The attack on Gabrielle Giffords, in which federal judge John Roll was killed) took place in a supermarket parking lot in the middle of the morning. Under Texas law, not even a CHL would have been required for armed intervention: Texans can carry a concealed handgun in their personal vehicle without a permit.

You can talk about "baby steps" all you want; babies fall down, too, and SB905 is a prime example of this. Unless a potential amendment extends the same expansion of permitted carry to all CHL holders, SB905 needs to end its days in the House, without passage. This is sheer, naked elitism and self-serving on the part of our elected officials; the so-called justification does not hold water, even under the most cursory examination.

SB905 is scheduled for public hearings on May 17. If you are in Austin, a visit to the State Capitol might be worthwhile. In the meantime, you should contact your Texas State Representative (http://www.house.state.tx.us/resources/ ... s/#who_rep) and left them know you oppose SB905 as passed by the Senate. Tell them the language needs to be extended to cover all Texans with Concealed Handgun Licenses or the measure needs to be defeated.
by M2K
Fri May 13, 2011 7:57 pm
Forum: 2011 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: CALL TO ACTION: SB905
Replies: 172
Views: 73135

Re: CALL TO ACTION: SB905

Well without sounding totally disagreeable, this amendment just makes the the original bill that much more unsavory. I for one am with Senators Birdwell and Wentworth on this one.

No where on my CHL license does it state “Trial issue until you prove yourself worthy”.

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