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by CCreyeder
Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:32 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Bad Experience
Replies: 121
Views: 19697

Re: Bad Experience

TexasCajun wrote:
CCreyeder wrote:I've often had a question that reading this topic has brought back to mind...

I understand once a person has been given verbal notice that they must leave the premises or be in violation. For sure, lets say for example the "person in charge" comes up and says "hey, I noticed your gun when your shirt came up and I am asking you to leave" kind of scenario.

But, what about in a case where that person doesnt know for sure: just thinks, assumes, guesses, etc. Nothing illegal about lying to a store manager is there? Could you say to the manager, "well, what you THINK or ASSuME is not my concern" and then if asked to prove it let them know you dont have to prove anything to them? Then, finish your meal ASAP and boogie on outta there lol

I dont know, my gut tells me that that would be a no go. Personally, I think if "management" says I must leave if I am carrying, regardless of whether or not THEY know, since I know, then, as the Borg say, "resistance is futile"

However, it's a question I've often pondered, so I thought I would throw it out there for discussion.....
If you don't leave & the manager calls the cops, then you're in some hot water. As a matter of practice, the cops will ask you for your ID, and once that happens it's all downhill from there. I might be inclined to play the "it's a medical device (my thoracic perforator that keeps my heart from stopping) that I'm not going to let you see/inspect" card & GTHO. But it's risky. I'm more likely to simply leave immediately if asked. Whether I pay the bill or not would depend on how the actual conversation takes place, though.
That is my thought as well. I like "thoracic perforator"!

And, A-R brings up an excellent point as well and one that had totally slipped my mind. Boring me, I havent ever been asked to leave an establishment (for any reason) lol
by CCreyeder
Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:30 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Bad Experience
Replies: 121
Views: 19697

Re: Bad Experience

I've often had a question that reading this topic has brought back to mind...

I understand once a person has been given verbal notice that they must leave the premises or be in violation. For sure, lets say for example the "person in charge" comes up and says "hey, I noticed your gun when your shirt came up and I am asking you to leave" kind of scenario.

But, what about in a case where that person doesnt know for sure: just thinks, assumes, guesses, etc. Nothing illegal about lying to a store manager is there? Could you say to the manager, "well, what you THINK or ASSuME is not my concern" and then if asked to prove it let them know you dont have to prove anything to them? Then, finish your meal ASAP and boogie on outta there lol

I dont know, my gut tells me that that would be a no go. Personally, I think if "management" says I must leave if I am carrying, regardless of whether or not THEY know, since I know, then, as the Borg say, "resistance is futile"

However, it's a question I've often pondered, so I thought I would throw it out there for discussion.....

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