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tacticool wrote:

RottenApple wrote:

JP171 wrote:you should have gotten a certification of birth abroad from the consulates office and a consular birth certificate, those 2 documents are all thats needed not naturalization paper work

This. My wife was born in London while her dad was stationed there. She has a "certification of birth" that came from the US Consulate. When it came time to get her a new passport 5 years ago (for our honeymoon cruise), that was all that was needed. When she got her CHL, she sent in copies of her certification of birth, Passport, and our marriage license (because her DL still had her maiden name on it) and all was well. Nary a hiccup on her app.

OP doesn't have a passport. If he did, it would be easy to demonstrate US Citizenship to the satisfaction of DPS. While I agree a CRBA or equivalent should be sufficient, we're dealing with a bureaucracy. However, the simplest approach may be to send in his application with his CRBA and see how DPS responds, if he doesn't mind the risk of some delays.

Personally, I'm a big fan of the Passport Card. I have one in addition to a traditional Passport, which I only use when flying outside the US. On the other hand, I use my Passport Card as ID for domestic air travel, to simultaneously prove identity and right to work for I-9, and as general ID when I don't want to advertise my home address. Basically, if I need ID and I'm not driving, I show my passport card.

Krampus wrote:1. I don't see where rkjohn said what kind of birth certificate he had.
2. Texas DPS "Notice of Applicant Born Out of Country"

I hope this helps somebody who is more interested in facts than arguing gratia arguing.

Krampus wrote:

JP171 wrote:the list of approved documents just says birth certificate, doesn't specify where it has to be from, I think someone at DPS is making arbitrary and capricious decisions. now who do we need to e mail into oblivion to get this bull fixed?

Fix what? A birth certificate from somewhere overseas doesn't prove US Citizenship.

The way I see it, he has three easy choices.
1. Include a copy of his Certificate of U.S. Citizenship (Form N-560 or N-561) to prove he's a US citizen.
2. Include a copy of his U.S. Passort book or U.S, Passport card to prove he's a US citizen.
3. Complain that DPS won't take his word for it.

Another choice it to send what documentation he does have, showing he's a U.S. citizen, and hope DPS accepts that, but there's no guarantees if you decide you don't want to follow the guidelines.