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- Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:09 am
- Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
- Topic: Disarming the public...
- Replies: 55
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Re: Disarming the public...
believe it not that is perfectly legal its not the fed that instituted that it was the governor of the state. Natioal Guard tropps are allowed to be used at the discretion of the Governor and in the manner the Governor chooses to use them
- Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:36 am
- Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
- Topic: Disarming the public...
- Replies: 55
- Views: 8596
Re: Disarming the public...
speedsix wrote:...when I was an LEO in the 70s, we were taught that the Federal government could come in in an "emergency" and make all law enforcement federally authorized and controlled...and there were those of us THEN who said that we'd quit if that ever happened...there are still a lot who would...there are legal ways the feds can do it...but there will be more resistance than they've ever dreamed...some Americans will still die for their rights...and some feel like Patton...but I can't quote that here...'cause Patton talked nastyJP171 wrote:I wont say it can't happen here, I will say that it is most very unlikely to happen here, there are laws that prevent the actions by the federal military that cover this very thing, the N.O. thing was NOT federal military( it was Lousianna national guard) the Nat. Guard is under the direction of the Governor of the state NOT the Federal govt, when a NG unit is called up by the Fed a formal request is made to the GOVERNOR and the Governor has the ability to refuse(never happend but can) I do agree though that most of the people who are in the federal military service do not know about the laws and what comstitutes a legal or illegal order and the current administration isn't going to tell them. as far as police comming from other states to Tx and attempting to disarm us it is also in the realm of fantasy, other law enforcement officers from other states have no acutal legal authority in texas although texas currently plays nice and gives them the benefit of the doubt, but on the orders of the Governor of Texas that can stop just that fast, also most of the Texas National Guard and State Guard would refuse Orders to confiscate weapons of Texas Citizens, and Texas does make sure that the Guardsmen are familiar with the UCJM,TCMJ, Hague and Geneva conventions and what does or does not constitute a lawfull order.
I have heard of no law that would allow this, however that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The last I went thru about civilian law enforcement was that there was no way to federalize them beyond what state law allowed. I would like to know where this law is just cause I am curious as to how to federalize a city or county LEO on a federal level, I know that they can be under federal coordination but not federalized to work in states outside of their own.
- Sun Apr 17, 2011 6:39 am
- Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
- Topic: Disarming the public...
- Replies: 55
- Views: 8596
Re: Disarming the public...
I wont say it can't happen here, I will say that it is most very unlikely to happen here, there are laws that prevent the actions by the federal military that cover this very thing, the N.O. thing was NOT federal military( it was Lousianna national guard) the Nat. Guard is under the direction of the Governor of the state NOT the Federal govt, when a NG unit is called up by the Fed a formal request is made to the GOVERNOR and the Governor has the ability to refuse(never happend but can) I do agree though that most of the people who are in the federal military service do not know about the laws and what comstitutes a legal or illegal order and the current administration isn't going to tell them. as far as police comming from other states to Tx and attempting to disarm us it is also in the realm of fantasy, other law enforcement officers from other states have no acutal legal authority in texas although texas currently plays nice and gives them the benefit of the doubt, but on the orders of the Governor of Texas that can stop just that fast, also most of the Texas National Guard and State Guard would refuse Orders to confiscate weapons of Texas Citizens, and Texas does make sure that the Guardsmen are familiar with the UCJM,TCMJ, Hague and Geneva conventions and what does or does not constitute a lawfull order.