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jmra wrote: To get a truer picture of the difference between "in chamber or no", the demonstrators should have instituted some controls into their experiment which would have provided the victim the same time to react in both instances. The demonstration is meaningless without these controls as the results can be manipulated to produce the desired result.

I can see why that confused you. Since every situation is different, he was able to close the difference and use his advantage in mass to overpower her. The only control she used was she could not move until she felt "threatened". If there were controls to even everything out, then she would actually have the advantage of knowing when to react. This was just a YouTuber who was trying to demonstrate rather than scientifically validate.

If I could add anything to the lesson she was trying to pass on it would be...never give up. If you give up, you are done.

RJ

He was on her before she could "draw", and knocked her down; she is rather petite and was easily manhandled. It would have been a no-win situation even if she had one in the pipe. My point, however, is you have a higher chance of success if you carry ready to go. Even with multiple stab wounds, with adrenaline on full flow, she might could still clear her weapon from the holster...and then they could have a contest to see who could put the most holes in who.

RJ

Sorry I do not have the link to this, but it is a YouTube vid by LimaLife. This is a woman that does a lot of reviews from the perspective of a woman. Does a pretty good job. She did one on how not carrying one in the pipe can affect the outcome. She started with one in the pipe (using an airsoft pistol) against her assailant that was using a rubber knife. Her one rule was that she could not attempt to engage until she felt threatened. With one in the pipe she was able to get off a shot as she was being stabbed the first time, and a second shot off as she was getting stabbed the second time. Not great results, but chances are she could have been saved. In the second instance, without one in the pipe, she was unable to ready and fire at all. Her "assailant" stabbed her multiple times without her even being able to reach her pistol. I think we can put the Tueller Drill aside for the most part as most of us will not be fortunate enough to have a 21 foot warning track. Most assaults will come when the assailant is close enough they think they can finish it off quickly. Your choice, but one in the pipe is the only way I carry.

RJ

If I have to unholster in the car, then I either reholster standing by my car door, with the door shielding me, or I leave it in the center console. I don't want to do contortions in my car trying to get it back in the holster; besides that, I can probably get to it faster with it in the console. My preference, of course, is to have it on my person.

RJ