Last time I checked, the Second Amendment is a limitation on the power of the state, not a limitation of the power of individual citizens. If an individual citizen/property owner wants to ban firearms on the property they own, that's their right. It's our right as gun owners to not give money to that property owner.RoyGBiv wrote:Last time I checked, gun owners are in a class that is protected by the second ammendment to the United States Constitution.txyaloo wrote:Why wouldn't they be able to say no guns? A person leasing an apartment is entering into a contract. If they don't agree with the terms of the contract, they could find a place to live with more agreeable terms. Gun owners aren't protected classes. It's not discrimination to choose not to lease to gun owners.TexasJohnBoy wrote:A friend of mine at work currently rents an apartment, and he's up to renew. He told me this morning that he noticed a new sheet in the TAA lease asking for a copy of your LTC if you've got one. This seems mighty odd to me, and I haven't seen the paperwork yet.
But, it made me wonder, what are the ramifications of this? Can you be denied a lease because you hold an LTC and therefore have guns in your home (albeit, rented home)? Can you say noneya and then be evicted if they ever find out you have one?
I told him if it were me I would tell them NONEYA! But that's me, and he doesn't currently have an LTC. I also thought that since your appartment is your home, a landlord can't tell you no guns - but they can restrict open carry on the premises. I also know the topic of 30.06 has been discussed on whether or not it's valid for the rest of the complex besides your unit.
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- Thu Jul 07, 2016 6:26 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
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- Thu Jul 07, 2016 6:24 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: TAA lease asking for LTC?
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Charles - not disagreeing with this aspect of your statement. TAA has a lease addendum that deals with carrying in the common areas.Charles L. Cotton wrote:Nothing indicates the apartment bans firearms. They want a copy of a government document the Legislature has rendered confidential.txyaloo wrote:Why wouldn't they be able to say no guns? A person leasing an apartment is entering into a contract. If they don't agree with the terms of the contract, they could find a place to live with more agreeable terms. Gun owners aren't protected classes. It's not discrimination to choose not to lease to gun owners.TexasJohnBoy wrote:A friend of mine at work currently rents an apartment, and he's up to renew. He told me this morning that he noticed a new sheet in the TAA lease asking for a copy of your LTC if you've got one. This seems mighty odd to me, and I haven't seen the paperwork yet.
But, it made me wonder, what are the ramifications of this? Can you be denied a lease because you hold an LTC and therefore have guns in your home (albeit, rented home)? Can you say noneya and then be evicted if they ever find out you have one?
I told him if it were me I would tell them NONEYA! But that's me, and he doesn't currently have an LTC. I also thought that since your appartment is your home, a landlord can't tell you no guns - but they can restrict open carry on the premises. I also know the topic of 30.06 has been discussed on whether or not it's valid for the rest of the complex besides your unit.
One is not compelled to provide a copy of a CHL or even answer a question as to whether they have a license. "TAA" probably refers to the Texas Apartment Assoc. meaning the vast majority of apartment complexes will use its recommended lease contract.
This may be something we need to address in 2017.
Chas.
http://aagdallas.com/assets/files/HandgunAddendum.pdf
My statement was really addressing the ability of a property owner to ban a tenant from having guns on the property. Do you believe an owner of a residential property can prohibit a tenant from having firearms in their unit through lease terms? TAA has somewhat of a blurb about the constitutionality of a complete ban at the bottom of the addendum. Since gun owners aren't a federally protected class, I don't see what would stop a property owner.
- Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:13 pm
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: TAA lease asking for LTC?
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Re: TAA lease asking for LTC?
Why wouldn't they be able to say no guns? A person leasing an apartment is entering into a contract. If they don't agree with the terms of the contract, they could find a place to live with more agreeable terms. Gun owners aren't protected classes. It's not discrimination to choose not to lease to gun owners.TexasJohnBoy wrote:A friend of mine at work currently rents an apartment, and he's up to renew. He told me this morning that he noticed a new sheet in the TAA lease asking for a copy of your LTC if you've got one. This seems mighty odd to me, and I haven't seen the paperwork yet.
But, it made me wonder, what are the ramifications of this? Can you be denied a lease because you hold an LTC and therefore have guns in your home (albeit, rented home)? Can you say noneya and then be evicted if they ever find out you have one?
I told him if it were me I would tell them NONEYA! But that's me, and he doesn't currently have an LTC. I also thought that since your appartment is your home, a landlord can't tell you no guns - but they can restrict open carry on the premises. I also know the topic of 30.06 has been discussed on whether or not it's valid for the rest of the complex besides your unit.