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cowhow wrote:

RoyGBiv wrote:FWIW, I sent the Gov and my House rep an email asking them to get behind HB 308.

Stole some of Charles' language about "OC will be nice, but 308 will save lives."
FWIW... Received the following from the Gov. office yesterday.
Good to know that at least my opinion was tallied.

That's a good idea. I did contact Collier and Burton earlier, but not the Gov. It's still a mystery to me why every CHL holder in Texas isn't beating down doors to get this bill passed. The sense I get is that not every CHL holder will use OC but we would all benefit from HB308. I realize it may have some sticking points for some, but there's no discussion or measurable movement of any kind at working toward a compromise to get it out of committee.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

ELB wrote:I think he saying that HB308 is far more important and far-reaching in extending 2A rights than HB910, but the frenzy around open carry has elevated the glamorous but relatively minor progress over the substantive.

Very well said. Yes, I want HB910 or SB17 to pass, but the cost was very high. I'll be glad to see open-carry off the radar so we can push for HB308-type legislation. I'm working on a two-year campaign to get it passed in 2017. I don't want to die or retire from politics with this unfinished.

Chas.

mojo84 wrote:

jerry_r60 wrote:

mojo84 wrote:

MeMelYup wrote:

TexasCajun wrote:Maybe some of the regular folks are falling into the trap that new CHLs do, not reading through to the bottom of the prohibited places section where the section was amended so that churches, hospitals, amusement parks, etc can prohibit concealed carry by posting 30.06. Obviously hospitals and amusement parks are already aware of this. Maybe churches aren't?

Churches are aware of 30.06. They don't want the ugly sign cluttering up their landscaping and out of sight is out of mind. If you can't see it what is there to complain about?

Many have also chosen to not make their congregants and members helpless sitting ducks.

I've sat in many business meetings and I've never even heard it come up. It's not been conscious choice to protect the congregation and its not been a conscious choice to avoid the ugly sign. I think it's simply been a matter of out of site, out of mind. No one has perceived an issue that needed to be discussed.

I have sat in on many meeting where it was discussed. Also have discussed it one on one with pastors. Maybe the "business" meeting is the wrong meeting for it to be discussed. Try the usher, deacon or the church security meetings. If it hasn't been discussed, you may want to bring it up as it may be considered irresponsible by some not too in the event something bad happens.

mojo84 wrote:

MeMelYup wrote:

TexasCajun wrote:Maybe some of the regular folks are falling into the trap that new CHLs do, not reading through to the bottom of the prohibited places section where the section was amended so that churches, hospitals, amusement parks, etc can prohibit concealed carry by posting 30.06. Obviously hospitals and amusement parks are already aware of this. Maybe churches aren't?

Churches are aware of 30.06. They don't want the ugly sign cluttering up their landscaping and out of sight is out of mind. If you can't see it what is there to complain about?

Many have also chosen to not make their congregants and members helpless sitting ducks.