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by jerry_r60
Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:01 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: "Zero-tolerance" policy on guns extends to private property.
Replies: 42
Views: 5698

Re: "Zero-tolerance" policy on guns extends to private prope

Now another Zero Tolerance suspension, for a 2" gunshaped keychain.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.1471474" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And another suspension for shooting a nerf gun at school after being asked to bring it by the teacher for a probability lesson.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.1363552" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
by jerry_r60
Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:01 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: "Zero-tolerance" policy on guns extends to private property.
Replies: 42
Views: 5698

Re: "Zero-tolerance" policy on guns extends to private prope

Moby wrote:In a letter obtained by WAVY.com, school principal Matthew Delaney found that the "children were firing pellet guns at each other, and at people near the bus stop." Delaney states in the letter that one child "was only 10 feet from the bus stop, and ran from the shots being fired, but was still hit."


Typical twisting of the truth. The boys were shooting at other kids waiting for the bus. Non participants to the fun and games.
A little different than innocent playing in their own yard. they were shooting "outside" of their yard at others not playing with them.
This seems to be in dispute. There are also witnesses stating the boys never left the yard (70 yards away, airsoft doesnt' have that range).

Also some new info. The news had to get a privacy waiver from the mother to get the schools side of the story. The school then used that privacy release to release all of the boys private diciplenary records to the public.

http://www.wavy.com/news/local/va-beach ... ne-too-far" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
by jerry_r60
Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:05 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: "Zero-tolerance" policy on guns extends to private property.
Replies: 42
Views: 5698

Re: "Zero-tolerance" policy on guns extends to private prope

texanjoker wrote:...the kids were waiting for the school bus...
They were apparently about 70 yards away from the school bus, on private property. Waiting inside the house until you see the bus round the corner would also be "waiting for the school bus".

If it was at the school bus stop, that's a different story.
by jerry_r60
Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:15 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: "Zero-tolerance" policy on guns extends to private property.
Replies: 42
Views: 5698

Re: "Zero-tolerance" policy on guns extends to private prope

I linked over to the article on wavy.com and it had some additional info, including the local law.

City Code:
The City codes referenced in this case are as follows:

City Code 38-3, primarily section (d) “ Notwithstanding any other provisions of this section, it shall be unlawful for any person to discharge any firearm, spring-propelled rifle or pistol, from, on, across or within one hundred fifty (150) yards of any building, dwelling, street, sidewalk, alley, roadway or public land or public place within the city limits.”

And

Section (f) “No person shall use a pneumatic gun in the area of the city described in (a) above except (i) at approved shooting ranges or (ii) on or within private property with permission of the owner or legal possessor thereof when conducted with reasonable care to prevent a projectile from crossing the bounds of the property. For purposes of this subsection, "pneumatic gun" means any implement designed as a gun that will expel a BB or a pellet by action of pneumatic pressure, including but not limited to paintball guns. Further, for the purpose of this subsection "reasonable care" means that the pneumatic gun is discharged in a manner so the projectile is contained on the property by a backstop, earthen embankment or fence. The discharge of projectiles across or over the bounds of the property shall create the rebuttable presumption that the use of the pneumatic gun was not conducted with reasonable care and shall constitute a Class 3 misdemeanor. “


One of the things that concerned me, beyond on the private property stuff is this statement by the police:

"Also keep in mind that this is not something that we proactively seek out to enforce." It seems more and more, laws are passed making things illegal but then we are told it's not enforced. It's like we are slowly all made criminals and then left to the good will of the government to not prosecute.

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