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So they all waited until they moved passed time for comment and Schaffer started to close and then they dramatically all start popping up.

This guy up now is mischaracterizing now. He's making it sound like the rules to purchase a gun are changing instead of carry.

Hmm, not a fan of 20. That now added some cost to the bill.

Kkpsiknl wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:01 pm Just got home, what amendment just passed?

Amendment to expunge the record for offenses from the past of people carrying without a license. This sounds like it's appropriately limited to cases where the firearm was not used in any nefarious way, it was simply carrying without a license.

Vol Texan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:00 pm Expungement of previous carrying without a license convictions: passed.

Never would have expected that one.

I'll bet she thought she was just making a point. I'll also bet she still votes against the bill. I hope her amendment has tight language so it doesn't derail this thing but I suspect Schaffer would have looked at that already.

comsec wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:35 pm This POO related to a subsection of the legislative process so this must be some procedural move to gum up to what appears to be a steamroller to pass the bill.

It's the third POO on the bill so far. They are sprinkled in along the way in between all the amendments.

Vol Texan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:31 pm I just got off work and joined in on this discussion. Logged into the site, but getting no sound. Is there nothing being done right now, or is it a problem on my side?

They are not talking publicly right now. They are dealing with a Point of Order and then will come back "online". Notice just above the bill number it says Point of Order. That changes to the amendment number they are dealing with when to are going again.

Syntyr wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:00 pm Amendment #6 to lower the age of CC from 21 to 18.

Schaefer not supporting.

While there are merits in the argument, it sounds like this is one of those places where you go for what you think will pass vs an ideal. I suspect this amendment would be a poison pill. Let's get constitutional carry passed. Then it can be improved where needed like CHL was.

Soccerdad1995 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:28 pm Do I understand the current discussion correctly to say that oral notice would be required regardless of signage? I like that.

If you mean amendment 3 no that's not what is said. What's being said is that it would be a class A instead of class C if you walk past a sign. Currently it would require notice and still not complying to raise to a class A. Not a good amendment.

KC5AV wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:58 am What is the point of order? I had to step away for a minute.

I have not heard them explain it. I heard point of order made and people were called forward and then it went silent. Just a couple of admonishments to the gallery to keep quite, sounded like some protesters. They were told if they did it again the gallery would be cleared. It's been silent other than that.

KC5AV wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:35 am

Flightmare wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:48 am https://tlchouse.granicus.com/MediaPlay ... 2lCghrPpns'

Permitless Carry will be the first main bill for debate after the 3rd reading bills.

Loving this exchange between Reps. Schaefer and King.
Schaefer is really doing a great job.

Sherman makes it sound like the bill requires people to carry, which of course it does not. Referring to "the talk" and implying this will cause more black deaths at the hands of police.

K.Mooneyham wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:30 am

jerry_r60 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:59 am HB 1407 passed the house - the bill adds a phrase allowing more options to belt or shoulder holster when in a car for a license holder. It adds:

"or
in a holster, and the handgun and the license
holder were in a motor vehicle
"

Does that mean, if this passes into law, that the handgun will no longer have to be concealed, as long as it is holstered?

That's how I read it (for a license holder). My understanding is that currently, a license holder can open carry in a car (or outside the car) as long as the handgun is in a belt or shoulder holster. This new phrase adds that for a license holder, it's lawful for the handgun to be visible as long as the handgun is in some type of holster and both the holstered handgun and the license holder are in a car.

Discussion / Debate on HB 1927 is live now:
https://tlchouse.granicus.com/MediaPlay ... nt_id=6308

HB 1407 passed the house - the bill adds a phrase allowing more options to belt or shoulder holster when in a car for a license holder. It adds:

"or
in a holster, and the handgun and the license
holder were in a motor vehicle
"

HB1856 - Hotel Bill: It looks like it passed in the house today and is moving on to the senate.