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by JRG
Mon Aug 12, 2024 11:47 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Texas State Fair Carry Rules
Replies: 118
Views: 31586

Re: Texas State Fair Carry Rules

carlson1 wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2024 11:44 pm
srothstein wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2024 11:31 pm
Rex B wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2024 10:46 pm Here is the letter he linked to:

https://www2.texasattorneygeneral.gov/f ... th_Zoo.pdf

This is news to me.

Is the State Fair of Texas a registered non-profit?
And why does this make a difference?
Read the letter carefully. It does not say the signs can be enforced, just that they are not illegally posted. The loophole which they crawl through is that the law making it illegal to post 30.06 signs only applies to the government agency (in this case, the City of Dallas) and not to any other person or organization. If I go post a big 30.06 sign on the fence around the Capitol in Austin, I am not violating the law that says the state cannot post. Of course, my sign has no legal bearing on whether you can carry inside the Capitol or not. This is what the State Fair Association is saying they did.

Obviously, my analogy is slightly flawed because DPS would take down my sign as soon as they saw I posted it, but the legal principal is the same. The State Fair Association can post any sign they want because they are not the government. It doesn't mean that 30.06 applies to anyone because the law is still the same and says it does not apply on state owned land.
So you go to the gate at the fair as always and tell the security guard you need to see the police officer. You show the officer your LTC and he says, “you are not allowed to carry here.” Worse he climbs down and places you in handcuffs for walking past the sign. Then what?
Very true Carl. I do not go where I am not wanted.

Joe
by JRG
Mon Aug 12, 2024 11:45 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Texas State Fair Carry Rules
Replies: 118
Views: 31586

Re: Texas State Fair Carry Rules

RottenApple wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2024 9:19 am
JRG wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 8:37 pm Well, if I cannot carry, I shall NOT attend!

Joe
Same. Which is a shame. We had wanted to take our granddaughter there. She turns 5 this month and would probably love it (though not the heat). But if I can't keep her and my wife safe, and my wife can't cover me if needed, then no thanks.

I wonder how many potential patrons don't go because of this policy...
Yep! With the fair being in East Dallas, which is a bad area anyway, I do not want to be unprotected. I used to try to go often, but have not been in several years. Now, it appears, it may be several more years until I am able to attend.

Joe
by JRG
Sat Aug 10, 2024 8:37 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Texas State Fair Carry Rules
Replies: 118
Views: 31586

Re: Texas State Fair Carry Rules

Well, if I cannot carry, I shall NOT attend!

Joe

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