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jimlongley wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:

A-R wrote:

LSUTiger wrote:I know Crazy Joe's intentions were misguided and I don't agree with his agenda but the advice is good, I think, at least to the extent of shooting someone through the door who is actively trying to break into your home goes. Regardless of what you use.

I had an opportunity to talk to at the time Assist. Sheriff Kenneth Craig Brady of FT.Bend county when we had a rash of burglaries in our neighborhood.

He said if someone was trying to breakin it was legal to shoot them through the door, you didnt have to wait until he got in and put yourself at risk.

If those who are just getting onboard with the whole guns and freedom movement invest in shotguns for HD then good but I hope they dont buy the Crazy Joe and O arguments against AR's and AK's. Everyone needs (Freedom rifle) one now more than ever.

But if the demand/price of freedom rifles was offset the demand for shotguns then I'd be the first to take advantage of that.

Please review firearm rule #4 and tell me if you still believe in firing blindly through a door.

Exactly. If you can't SEE the target, you have no idea who you are shooting at, because no matter how much you THINK you know, you DON'T know until the door opens. What if a cop had stepped up to the door to neutralize the bad guy just as you pulled the trigger, and you didn't know because you can't see him there?

The battering at the door, and incoherent yelling, is the marginally disabled Down's Syndrome teenager from next door trying to let you know your house is on fire.

We have several smoke detectors tied to our security system, we should get a heads up way sooner.

Someone battering ( not just knocking or ringing the bell) at my door ( especially at strange times and at my backdoor)will always get treated as a BG ( assuming there is no smoke or fire present or they are not yelling "fire" and Im not expecting anyone).

Did you read every post or did you just get to the part you liked and replied. I think you might have missed somethings in between.

If you did and still have the same opinion then that's ok.

LSUTiger wrote:

E.Marquez wrote:Former Assist Sheriff, Former Chief Deputy, and failed attempt at being elected Sheriff, Mr Kenneth Craig Brady of FT.Bend county is neither a legal scholar, nor a person that will deiced an accused's innocence or guilt. And I would suggest, that his advise was as lame as the VP's
For many of the valid reason brought forth above.

or to any sense of moral superiority by agreeing with the rest of the crowd (I'll leave that to the anti 2A anti gunners). So we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Sorry, last little bit about "moral superiority" not meant as a personal jab. It kind of snuck in there as a result of very recent AWB discussion at work where a FUDD or two went into the whole I support the 2A but I don't need an AR to go hunting routine.

They could not articulate a valid argument for their support for AWB and failed to understand the real purpose of the 2A. So I suspect they were either on some moral superiority high horse or just trying to be politically correct at work or just going along with the crowd. Either way its should be countered at every opportunity with the truth.

Not that there aren't valid situations to apply rule#4. And yes there is a large clear glass window in my back door which I can see outside a little through the side of the blinds that cover it and even a foot or two beyond the door when looking at it from a distance.

My apologies in advance.

E.Marquez wrote:Former Assist Sheriff, Former Chief Deputy, and failed attempt at being elected Sheriff, Mr Kenneth Craig Brady of FT.Bend county is neither a legal scholar, nor a person that will deiced an accused's innocence or guilt. And I would suggest, that his advise was as lame as the VP's
For many of the valid reason brought forth above.

We can agree on one thing, ironically, Police are not the best source of legal advice. Those who are supposed to uphold the laws should have a better knowledge of what those laws are.

But to my knowledge he is correct....

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But my question to him and his answer to me were after my break in had occured because I thought about what I was prepared to do as I encountered the threat.

Not all rules and good advice fit every scenario. When all the members of your family are in every room in the house its not the same scenario than when every one is barricaded into a single room waiting for police to arrive. In my situation the threat was imminent and my family was not secure or even aware of what was happening.

Holding fast to some rule when common sense dictates otherwise could get you killed.

Every scenario will have its own set of circumstances to take into account. You can follow your rule no matter what and good luck to you but not me. I choose common sense and to act accordingly as the situation dictates, not according to some rule that may not be good advice or applicable to the situation or to any sense of moral superiority by agreeing with the rest of the crowd (I'll leave that to the anti 2A anti gunners). So we'll just have to agree to disagree.

ajwakeboarder wrote:

A-R wrote:

LSUTiger wrote:I know Crazy Joe's intentions were misguided and I don't agree with his agenda but the advice is good, I think, at least to the extent of shooting someone through the door who is actively trying to break into your home goes. Regardless of what you use.

I had an opportunity to talk to at the time Assist. Sheriff Kenneth Craig Brady of FT.Bend county when we had a rash of burglaries in our neighborhood.

He said if someone was trying to breakin it was legal to shoot them through the door, you didnt have to wait until he got in and put yourself at risk.

If those who are just getting onboard with the whole guns and freedom movement invest in shotguns for HD then good but I hope they dont buy the Crazy Joe and O arguments against AR's and AK's. Everyone needs (Freedom rifle) one now more than ever.

But if the demand/price of freedom rifles was offset the demand for shotguns then I'd be the first to take advantage of that.

Please review firearm rule #4 and tell me if you still believe in firing blindly through a door.

YES, YES, YES, I do, rule#4 can take a flying leap. I say it all depends on the situation. My home was getting the back door kicked in one Sunday morning, the repeated kicking woke me up. Before I was able to wake up and get out of bed to respond I heard the door come open as bits and pieces of my door frame came flyinall over the place.

When I made it out of the bedroom with gun in hand about 1 second later, the BG was already gone, apparently he thought no one was home or the home had not been sold yet and unoccupied ( this was 5 days after we moved in). Fortunately no entry was made. I cleared the house. And waited for police.

There was no police officer in my back yard to try and stop him. The police didnt arrive until 7 minutes later. Took a report and left.

I have a wife, two small kids, and a mother to protect, I doubt anyone of them is going to be kicking in any doors to get in at 5 am on a Sunday.

Had I arrived a little sooner there would have been a chalk outline of a dead BG outside of my back door. See pic below of my destroyed door frame. I had to remove the door, the handle an dead bolt lock mechanism were kicked so hard it cracked door itself and pushed through the door frame. I had to board up the back entrance until I could get it fixed.
I wont sit around waiting for someone to break into my house so I could discuss rule#4 or their intentions.

I let common sense and the situation dictate my response, if rule#4 applies then I'll follow, if I feel better protected otherwise then I'll just have to be the judge of that.

I know Crazy Joe's intentions were misguided and I don't agree with his agenda but the advice is good, I think, at least to the extent of shooting someone through the door who is actively trying to break into your home goes. Regardless of what you use.

I had an opportunity to talk to at the time Assist. Sheriff Kenneth Craig Brady of FT.Bend county when we had a rash of burglaries in our neighborhood.

He said if someone was trying to breakin it was legal to shoot them through the door, you didnt have to wait until he got in and put yourself at risk.

If those who are just getting onboard with the whole guns and freedom movement invest in shotguns for HD then good but I hope they dont buy the Crazy Joe and O arguments against AR's and AK's. Everyone needs (Freedom rifle) one now more than ever.

But if the demand/price of freedom rifles was offset the demand for shotguns then I'd be the first to take advantage of that.