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Oh I know the answer to that. No, the poor fellow did not have retention. It was a leather holster so it was a good fit, but no, no retention. I am on a I phone do it is hard for me but there is a video of the incident and I clearly remember the lack of retention.

We discussed at length in VA gun forum about whether even a thumb break could have helped. Poor man.

Let me put it like this...I like some retention on everything. Just because I have had odd things happen to me (kids add an excitement to life). I have had a toddler knock me over and my gun went flying in walmart once. Then once I had a belly band turn inside out and drop the gun on the floor in a Wendy's bathroom. So I like some retention even if I am CC. Just my style.

If you don't use retention I plead with you to keep your head on a swivel. Be aware. I am certain your draw would be faster than mine, but still. I don't want to be debating this over another good mans death.

The scuttlebutt around here (less then 15 miles from where this happened) is that he was shot by his own gun. Guy grabbed his gun he tried to get it back and was shot for his trouble. Can't try local rumor in court, but proximity to the event makes the story more reliable. Anyway, in this case retention might have helped. It sure could not have hurt.

There was a case here in Richmond. It happens, but is not common. As am occasional OCer I always have retention. Not just for bad guys but for curious little kids too.