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by mamabearCali
Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:36 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Can U.S. legally kill a citizen overseas
Replies: 102
Views: 13502

Re: Can U.S. legally kill a citizen overseas

I was talking with a family member this evening over dinner and was picking their brain about this situation. They are a little more knowledgeable about military type situations. When I said people were crying about his being an "American citizen" he laughed. He pointed out that even if that was a conceivable argument for not putting a hell-fire missal in their laps, that the person would be considered at minimum a spy and that we are not too choosy about ending those threats and have never been. So missal or sharp shooter we tend to execute spies when we can. If we can try them and then execute them here in the US--sure it would be nice--but otherwise stop the leak stop the threat.
by mamabearCali
Tue Oct 04, 2011 5:55 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Can U.S. legally kill a citizen overseas
Replies: 102
Views: 13502

Re: Can U.S. legally kill a citizen overseas

Cobra Medic wrote:
No double standards. :nono:
"rlol" If you don't' think double standards exists in this world I have got a nice pier overlooking the ocean in Oklahoma to sell you.

There is a HUGE legal difference between a civilian and a military combatant. He became that the moment he joined Al-Queida, and certainly fell into that category when he became a leader in Al-Queida. He had every choice to come back here and face trial as a civilian, instead he chose to be an enemy combatant and got what comes to the leaders of our enemies.
by mamabearCali
Tue Oct 04, 2011 5:13 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Can U.S. legally kill a citizen overseas
Replies: 102
Views: 13502

Re: Can U.S. legally kill a citizen overseas

Hmmm you know if a mugger is standing in front of me and has already killed my neighbors and is now me telling me "I am going to kill you, your husband, your children, your parents" with a gun outstretched to do what he has just said he would do, then I am permitted to end the threat to my family. He was doing precisely that on a national level. I cry no tears for him, he was a snake in the grass and earned the hell-fire missal he got in his lap.
by mamabearCali
Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:51 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Can U.S. legally kill a citizen overseas
Replies: 102
Views: 13502

Re: Can U.S. legally kill a citizen overseas

Cobra Medic wrote: We're taught there's a difference between shooting a gang member who is attaching you RIGHT NOW and shooting a gang member who is a future threat. Or shooting a gang member who runs away after attacking you and is no longer an immediate threat.

If the killings in Yemen are moral, so is shooting the mugger in the back as he flees. Or that pharmacist in OKC killing the robber on the scene who was no longer an immediate threat.
So this guy was on a mountain top just twiddling his thumbs minding his own business? No, he was planning and plotting and trying to find any way to kill more Americans--that makes him an immediate threat. Just as much as the mugger who is down on the ground but still shooting at you.

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