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baldeagle wrote:

sugar land dave wrote:You repeated the claim that this story came from a press release at least 6 times that I recall. Not once did you cite a source or provide a link, yet used the statement to the detriment of others.

Yes, he has, and now I simply have to insist that a cite be provided to verify this claim. Otherwise it is false. Without proof, it's simply a device to attempt to preclude discussion.

I understand, but I do want to make it clear that I admire his tenacity and energy in posting. I wish I had one tenth of that.

EEllis wrote:

talltex wrote:

EEllis wrote:These stories were based of a press release done up by the girls lawyer. One source, and only one, I saw actually called VABC to get their side and none did any real investigation. That VABC made, or will make, changes is great but in no way impacts anything I said. Mind you they could think their policies are just fine but someone is just trying to get the press off their back so your conclusion that it proves something is thin. Even so if you actually bother to look at what I say I never approve, support or in any way condone any policy or tactics that VABC has or uses. I just think that so far no one has even tried to say that any of the agents have broken or violated any law, policy or anything else so to call for these extreme responses is unwarranted.

Oh and if you don't think this story came from a press release how do you think it came about?

EEllis, you are always critical of opinions given that cannot be supported by documented sources...where did you see a disclosure citing the girl's attorney as the source? Maybe it was just investigative journalism. Regardless of the source, the DA's office stated that girl's version was "factually consistent" with what occurred. As for no one claiming the agents broke or violated any law...well, NEITHER DID THE GIRLS before they were subjected to an "over the top" assault by 7 agents when they had done NOTHING wrong. One of the agents DID jump on the hood of the car...at least one of them WAS beating on the windows...at least one of them DID have a gun pointed at the girls. The resisting/fleeing/assault charges were a poor attempt at CYA after the fact (that's purely my opinion).

You might be right that it wasn't a press release. It appears the reporter who "broke" the story has the courthouse beat and so she may just of read the pleadings.The statement the defence attorney filed with the court much better and unbiased. Mind you I don't say a bit of it is incorrect just that it is not evidence of what is claimed or enough for the actions that seem so urgent to some of those here.
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You repeated the claim that this story came from a press release at least 6 times that I recall. Not once did you cite a source or provide a link, yet used the statement to the detriment of others.

Let me show you how easy it is to state something that on the surface sounds reasonable, but has no confirmable source. It has been reported by many that agents of the Department of Homeland Security are now joining, monitoring, and interacting in popular online forums while participating in a new program to identify and categorize civilians who may be a future threat to national security. These agents have been granted latitude in normal procedures in order to better perform the necessary job of protecting Americans.

There, see how easy that is to present something as if it were fact, something that on the surface sounds quite believable, yet with scrutiny is found to be without source.

That said, I still support LEOs and admire the fortitude you have displayed over 13 pages. As for the topic, I am glad no one was seriously hurt or killed. It was a strange turn of events.