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seamusTX wrote:

sugar land dave wrote:Oh, I know all of that, but does it make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside?

No. Freedom isn't safe; and safety, or security as it usually is called nowadays, impinges on freedom.

It only reassures me that malicious government officials would have some trouble locking me up just because they felt like it.

Psalm 23 makes me feel as safe as I'm going to feel.

- Jim

gigag04 wrote:Many of the forum members are quick to stamp their feet about THEIR 4th amendment and 2nd amendment rights. The 8th amendment is just as valid. Oh the double edged sword of protection

seamusTX wrote:Habeus corpus or bail is the most fundamental legal right in the common law system. It is in Magna Carta, and it is the only individual right enumerated in the body of the Constitution (Article One, Section 9, clause 2).

Without habeus corpus, the government could accuse anyone of heinous crimes and lock him up in a dungeon for a decade or so while they contemplated the trial. That is exactly what the English kings were doing back in the dark ages, and repressive governments do it today.

The amount of bail is supposed to guarantee that the defendant shows up for trial. It is not a punishment in advance for a crime that the defendant has not been convicted of.

One has to wonder how Mr. Tattoo Art came up with 10 grand so quickly, though.

- Jim