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by speedsix
Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:30 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Oklahoma State Trooper Pulls Us Over.. Im sleeping.
Replies: 33
Views: 5785

Re: Oklahoma State Trooper Pulls Us Over.. Im sleeping.

...I don't know...but the officer didn't say anything to him about a gun until he handed the officer his CHL/Lic and told him about it...
...if I thought a person in a van was armed, I wouldn't send after him , I'd go myself...as blustery as he got about it...I doubt he'd have just stood there talking to the driver and sent a messenger...maybe the OP will tell us more...
by speedsix
Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:22 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Oklahoma State Trooper Pulls Us Over.. Im sleeping.
Replies: 33
Views: 5785

Re: Oklahoma State Trooper Pulls Us Over.. Im sleeping.

C-dub wrote:It also begs the question of whether or not a violation of another states law can affect our Texas license. I wouldn't think so because the penalty in Texas for that violation has been removed, but I'm not sure when the violation is committed in another state, which may have a penalty for failure to notify.

...if he violated OK law, which he didn't in this case, the OK LEO would charge him for violating their law...if it were a misdemeanor of the level that would cause him not to be eligible here, it would hurt him here...if they didn't confiscate his license or report to Texas...probably not...

...this is the OK law and penalty: C. It shall be unlawful for any person to fail or refuse to identify the fact
that the person is in actual possession of a concealed handgun pursuant to the
authority of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act when the person first comes into
contact with any law enforcement officer of this state or its political
subdivisions or a federal law enforcement officer during the course of any
arrest, detainment or routine traffic stop. Any violation of the provisions of
this subsection shall, upon conviction, be a misdemeanor punishable by a fine
not exceeding Five Hundred Dollars ($500.00), by imprisonment in the county
jail for a period not to exceed ninety (90) days, or by both such fine and
imprisonment. In addition to any criminal prosecution for a violation of the
provisions of this subsection, the licensee shall be subject to an
administrative fine of Fifty Dollars ($50.00), upon a hearing and determination
by the Bureau that the person is in violation of the provisions of this
subsection OK Title 21 Part VI Chap 53 1290.8
by speedsix
Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:51 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Oklahoma State Trooper Pulls Us Over.. Im sleeping.
Replies: 33
Views: 5785

Re: Oklahoma State Trooper Pulls Us Over.. Im sleeping.

...if you read that...where is it written? I don't read that either he was the only one asked to get out...or that someone told that he had a gun...but I do read that the officer asked him to drive for the other guy...the trooper said nothing about him being armed until he did what the law requires and notified him properly...
by speedsix
Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:15 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Oklahoma State Trooper Pulls Us Over.. Im sleeping.
Replies: 33
Views: 5785

Re: Oklahoma State Trooper Pulls Us Over.. Im sleeping.

Mike1951 wrote:Someone in the van must have known you were carrying since the officer singled you out and you were asleep.
...he needed a licensed driver...
by speedsix
Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:11 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Oklahoma State Trooper Pulls Us Over.. Im sleeping.
Replies: 33
Views: 5785

Re: Oklahoma State Trooper Pulls Us Over.. Im sleeping.

RoyGBiv wrote:
cbunt1 wrote:I'm no expert on Oklahoma law, BUT...I never found anything in the statutes--or at least my check of them for the times I've gone to OK--that indicates my duty as a passenger to inform a driver.
Per my edited post above, it seems to me that OK law requires the passenger to tell the officer at "first contact".

I can see why the officer was rattled.... In the end, sounds like the officer didn't let it affect the outcome.

Just my opinion, not legal advice.

...first contact was when the officer asked him to come over to him...had he stayed in the vehicle and not been addressed...the contact would have been with the driver, not him...the OP did it right...
by speedsix
Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:25 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Oklahoma State Trooper Pulls Us Over.. Im sleeping.
Replies: 33
Views: 5785

Re: Oklahoma State Trooper Pulls Us Over.. Im sleeping.

...a driver can be held accountable for criminal things...dope...open container...etc...but there was nothing criminal here...the officer got a bit rattled...

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