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...here's you an answer from another forum...this is a good guy and a pro at it...

http://www.texasguntalk.com/forums/stol ... -guns.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

...register and address pawncop...he'll be a lot of help on your specific question...

...I don't know...we never had it happen in 5 years...we bought carefully...I've heard stories both ways...but no first-hand info...if the store acted in good faith, and ran the slips through the local PD, and the local PD did their job, within the 21 days we had to hold a bought item, it would have shown up hot...normally...now, I'm wondering if gunshops in Texas have any hold time when they buy a gun or trade one from an individual...ours came under the pawn laws...

...if it happened to me, I'd sure try to get them to replace it...

...in Texas, if you buy from a pawn shop, they've submitted copies of their pawn tickets or buy sheets...which are supposed to be checked to see if merchandise matches any stolen reports...where I am, they ran weeks behind...from an individual, get a written receipt with his info on it...this protects you...in a gunshop, the Firearms Transaction form that the dealer would have and your receipt will protect you...they can still confiscate if something fell through the cracks on the check for stolen...just can't charge you...

...not at all...as an LEO, you're given access to info that the public doesn't have access to...it's to be used with guidelines and is highly restricted...NCIC possibly more so than any local info you might be asked to get as a favor...you can lose your job if you're caught accessing restricted info as a favor...it must be done as part of an official investigation...if a person turns in a found weapon, or you're on a case and come across one inventorying a car or as result of a search warrant...that's a lot different than running one just because someone asked you to as a favor, or for a business...the FBI info I posted and the cases I linked ought to make that clear...

...correct...and the SC says they have no duty to protect us...their job is to enforce the law...most street officers don't like that decision or feel that way...but that's what the SC says...

...there are sources of information in law enforcement that are not open to the general public, NCIC is one of them...

http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/fbi/is/ncic.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

...one example of abuse: http://thedesertfreedompress.blogspot.c ... chief.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


...of course, folks are gonna do what they want to do...as the OP posted...some do "favors"...some don't...but if they're caught at it: http://www.justice.gov/usao/md/Public-A ... puter.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

...the more I think about LE running them as a public service, the less I can see it happening without them creating a record, also known as registration...scrap that idea!!!

gigag04 wrote:If someone in your jurisdiction approaches you and asks to check a gun to see if it is stolen...wouldn't that be, by definition, official business??

...no more than if they asked you to use your priviliged access to information on a person's record...or a police report that they were supposed to sign for and pay for...or run a background check on a person as a "favor"...or run a plate to see who it belonged to...as a favor, not as part of an investigation or, as mentioned, a "found" gun...which would have a report written and be turned in...

...you're right, it'd be great PR for the PD or SO...better'n a buy-back program for sure...

rwg3 wrote:I have to wonder what the criteria is "for official business only"? I can understand the reluctance of an officer to run the check especially if directed not to by the command structure. I would think however if a citizen asks the police to confirm that a weapon which not purchased NIB is not a stolen weapon, implicit in that question is the statement that this could be a stolen weapon. Further if it does come back as a stolen weapon, does the person who asks for a check face a load of trouble for possessing it, even with a bill of sale?
Alway something for me to learn on this site!

...if it shows up stolen...they confiscate it...and will expect you to cooperate finding who you bought it from...whether an individual has it or a pawn shop or gun shop...sometimes the pawn shop will repay you if it's stolen...but we had to fill out a slip on pawn or purchase that a copy of went to the local PD...a volunteer ran them against local stolen/burglary reports...don't know about NCIC...so we never had one that we sold turn up stolen...
...if I wanted one run, I'd try Chief's ofc...if he said yes, it couldn't bite an officer...some places do such favors...some don't...

...can you imagine the legal problems for the department if it comes back stolen??? we were told "official police use only" for that over 40 years ago...I know of an officer who lost his job doing just what you described...and the town almost lost NCIC privilges...this from the chief's lips within the last 2 years...it is not a "favor"...if they get caught...