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...well,I've done all the researching I'm going to...the OP is helped...if a professional instructor who lives in the state in question and deals with it for a living isn't enough...it really isn't worth any more of my time...since the law isn't worded like you want it to be, probably wouldn't be convinced if you called the State Police, either...so I'm done...and I haven't seen anyone else lift a finger to verify/dispute what I've found...so we'll all just have our opinions...some informed..some not so much

...OK...the NM Concealed Handgun office wasn't answering...so I called the CHL instructor I referred to above....Steve is very much an authority and up to snuff and told me:


...the ZOO is 100% for sure off limits to CHL...


...what WIKI quoted about 30-14-6 and specific signage requirements has NOTHING to do with CHL...it is TRESPASS ON LAND and in NM, if a law pertains to CHL, it specifically says so...in NM, CHL laws have NO RELATION to trespass...the CHL law doesn't weaken a property owner's right to have his way...

...ANY KIND of sign that a business owner wants to put up is legit...and must be obeyed...there is no law stating any required sign for CHL and the absence of that makes their CHL law's wording mean just what it says "sign"

...y'all be safe in NM...and don't be monkeyin' 'round with a gun at the zoo!!!

G.A. Heath wrote:

speedsix wrote:

G.A. Heath wrote:

speedsix wrote:...I think WIKI did it to us again...that link that's supposed to cover CHL posting is about trespassing and doesn't mention CHL holders at all...

To prohibit concealed carry in NM, you have to post and to post it has to meet the specific requirements of the law. looks plenty valid to me.

...it doesn't post against a CHL holder...it's a trespassing law... this instructor http://www.nm-ccw.com/faq.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; has in his FAQ section two questions regarding signs/CHL/liquor...citing recent bills passed regarding liquor/CHL...at the end of both answers, he says that any other signs against carrying guns still apply...he doesn't refer to the trespassing law WIKI cites...still digging...

...this also says "signs"...not a specific wording http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/newmexico.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Find me the specific law that says something to the effect of "Any no guns sign works in New Mexico" and I will change my position, until then I will believe as I do since I have looked in the past and never found it. New Mexico, like Texas, treats carry past a prohibiting sign as tresspass which in NM requires signs meet the above 5 criteria.

...10-8-2.16F is directly from the NM Concealed Weapon Law....don't know what more is needed...it just says signs...no specific...and doesn't refer to the trespassing law that WIKI quotes...about land and prohibiting all persons...you'd think the CHL law would tell the permitee if there was a specific wording to look for...

...this from the NM law: 10.8.2.27 PROHIBITING THE CARRYING OF CONCEALED HANDGUNS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY: Pursuant to Subsection C of NMSA 1978 Section 29-19-12, any person lawfully in possession of private property may prohibit the carrying of concealed handguns on such private property by posting notice in accordance with NMSA 1978 Section 30-14-6 or by verbally notifying persons entering upon the property.

[10.8.2.27 NMAC - N, 11-26-03]

...neither that passage nor the WIKI quoted passage (30-14-6) specify buildings or business, and the 30-14-6 specifically deals with LAND...no mention of businesses or buildings...and those specified signs, according to the law, prohibit ALL PERSONS from entry...something's not right...guess who I'm calling this morning...

G.A. Heath wrote:

speedsix wrote:...I think WIKI did it to us again...that link that's supposed to cover CHL posting is about trespassing and doesn't mention CHL holders at all...

To prohibit concealed carry in NM, you have to post and to post it has to meet the specific requirements of the law. looks plenty valid to me.

...it doesn't post against a CHL holder...it's a trespassing law... this instructor http://www.nm-ccw.com/faq.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; has in his FAQ section two questions regarding signs/CHL/liquor...citing recent bills passed regarding liquor/CHL...at the end of both answers, he says that any other signs against carrying guns still apply...he doesn't refer to the trespassing law WIKI cites...still digging...

...this also says "signs"...not a specific wording http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/newmexico.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

...no specific signage is required: http://www.nmcpr.state.nm.us/nmac/parts ... 8.0002.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Text of .16

10.8.2.16 TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF LICENSE:
A. Carrying only handguns listed on license. No person shall carry a concealed handgun of a different category or higher caliber than is indicated on the license issued to that person by the department. A licensee shall only carry one (1) concealed handgun at any given time.
B. Consumption of alcohol prohibited. No person shall consume alcohol while carrying a concealed handgun.
C. Carrying while impaired. Pursuant to NMSA 1978 Section 30-7-4, no person shall carry a concealed handgun while impaired by the use of alcohol, controlled substances, or over-the-counter or prescribed medications.
D. Display of license on demand. A licensee carrying a concealed handgun on or about his person in public shall, upon demand by a peace officer, display his license to carry a concealed handgun.
E. Prohibited acts. A licensee shall not deface, alter, mutilate, reproduce, lend, transfer, or sell a license. A licensee shall adhere to NMSA 1978 Section 30-7-4 as it pertains to negligent use of a deadly weapon.
F. Carrying prohibited on private property. In addition to other limitations stated in the act, a licensee may not carry a concealed handgun on or about his person on private property that has signs posted prohibiting the carrying of concealed weapons or when verbally told so by a person lawfully in possession of the property.
G. Carrying prohibited in preschools. As used in Subsection C of NMSA 1978 Section 29-19-8, preschool means a child care facility, whether home-based or center-based, whether or not the facility is licensed, registered, or regulated, that provides care to infants, toddlers, and children aged 5 and younger.
H. Indicia of licensure. No person who is not a law enforcement officer, may carry a badge, patch, card, or any other indication of authority to carry a concealed handgun in New Mexico other than the license issued by the department or a license issued by a state that has been accepted by transfer, recognition or reciprocity by New Mexico pursuant to the act.
I. Notice of change in circumstances. A licensee shall, within 10 calendar days, notify the department in writing of any of the following:
(1) adjudication of mental incompetence;
(2) commitment to a facility for the treatment of mental illness;
(3) commitment to a facility for treatment of addiction to alcohol, controlled substances, or other drugs;
(4) issuance of an order of protection by a court;
(5) indictment for or charge with a felony or one of the misdemeanor offenses described in Subsection B of NMSA 1978 Section 29-19-4;
(6) is no longer a full time salaried law enforcement officer; and
(7) is required to turn in the license within 10 calendar days of the change.

...I think WIKI did it to us again...that link that's supposed to cover CHL posting is about trespassing and doesn't mention CHL holders at all...

...from the Biopark website: "...•Do not bring glass containers, pets, alcohol, pinatas, weapons of any kind, toys, sports equipment, beverage lids, straws, radios, CD players, gas or charcoal grills..." http://www.cabq.gov/biopark/about-the-biopark/faq" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

...not familiar with NM's CCW laws...they do reciprocate w/TX but under their terms...Traveler's Guide says "...Carry is prohibited on any property posted against carry as well as..." the Guide also says loaded, concealed firearms may be carried anywhere in a private automobile for self-protection...so you could leave it in the car...