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by speedsix
Tue Jul 19, 2011 6:14 am
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Iraq War Veteran Holds Burglary Suspect at Gunpoint
Replies: 15
Views: 1443

Re: Iraq War Veteran Holds Burglary Suspect at Gunpoint

Purplehood wrote:
speedsix wrote:
Keith B wrote:I still disagree. Even as a special forces person and trained, unless you are there in the home at the time, a call to the police should be the FIRST thing that is done. The police can respond with multiple units in case there are multiple BG's. We are not police, and walking into a potentially deadly situation when you are not at risk of serious injury or death in the first place, even if you are trained, is just a bad idea.

Now, calling police on the way, then arriving at the home and waiting OUTSIDE, then stopping the guy as he came out before police arrive would be a different thing. But, going in to clear the house/apartment yourself is just dumb idea, trained or not.

...we're gonna disagree on this for sure...it's my house, whether or not my family's in there...I know the house better, I know what's in there that he might have gotten ahold of...I (and, for SURE this guy in the story) have plenty of training and experience...on at least 6 occasions where I have called police on a burglar alarm going off at a residence ONE unit with ONE officer showed up...on three of them, he NEVER entered/cleared the house...in Dallas it's been 20-30 mins. and the alarm had already reset...much quicker in smaller cities...to me, sitting outside while he did whatever he wanted to do inside to and with anyone who was home just isn't gonna happen...the highly efficient SWAT teams we see on TV haven't shown to be nearly as effective in many home invasion/hostage situations in the Dallas area...if a man wants to protect his own property, he has both the right and authority to do so...and calling him (me) dumb just doesn't make a ripple in the pool...you handle yours and I'll handle mine...the outcome's the "pudding"...I've taken 3 and 4 suspects out of burglaries several times with no help till I had them cuffed...not by magnificent strength or prowess...but by common sense...betcha I can do it again...if a man wants to sit outside and wait...his choice...I'd rather be "dumb"...
I guess it would depend on how upset I was about the whole-thing. How many "what-ifs" came into play.

Is a loved-one inside?
Do I think there is a good chance whoever is inside can get away with theft/destruction of my property?
Am I armed or is it one of the rare occasions that I am not carrying for whatever reason?

My tendency is to definitely avoid entering. But that is my call sitting here in my chair without the Adrenaline pumping.
...the first two questions don't figure for me...if he's in my home, he's mine...and I don't mow the yard or go out to the truck unarmed...ever...not once......my past gives me a different mindset and way of feeling about the situation than a lot...some things I won't tolerate...going into my home to steal or harm someone is one of them...you can steal from my truck or steal my truck(and definitely steal my lawn mower)...and I will try to apprehend you...but unless you turn on me, won't shoot...the stuff's not worth a life...but stay out of my home...

...I respect another man's choices...either way...but I know what's right for me...and I've been called dumb for less than that...it washes off...
by speedsix
Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:32 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Iraq War Veteran Holds Burglary Suspect at Gunpoint
Replies: 15
Views: 1443

Re: Iraq War Veteran Holds Burglary Suspect at Gunpoint

Keith B wrote:I still disagree. Even as a special forces person and trained, unless you are there in the home at the time, a call to the police should be the FIRST thing that is done. The police can respond with multiple units in case there are multiple BG's. We are not police, and walking into a potentially deadly situation when you are not at risk of serious injury or death in the first place, even if you are trained, is just a bad idea.

Now, calling police on the way, then arriving at the home and waiting OUTSIDE, then stopping the guy as he came out before police arrive would be a different thing. But, going in to clear the house/apartment yourself is just dumb idea, trained or not.

...we're gonna disagree on this for sure...it's my house, whether or not my family's in there...I know the house better, I know what's in there that he might have gotten ahold of...I (and, for SURE this guy in the story) have plenty of training and experience...on at least 6 occasions where I have called police on a burglar alarm going off at a residence ONE unit with ONE officer showed up...on three of them, he NEVER entered/cleared the house...in Dallas it's been 20-30 mins. and the alarm had already reset...much quicker in smaller cities...to me, sitting outside while he did whatever he wanted to do inside to and with anyone who was home just isn't gonna happen...the highly efficient SWAT teams we see on TV haven't shown to be nearly as effective in many home invasion/hostage situations in the Dallas area...if a man wants to protect his own property, he has both the right and authority to do so...and calling him (me) dumb just doesn't make a ripple in the pool...you handle yours and I'll handle mine...the outcome's the "pudding"...I've taken 3 and 4 suspects out of burglaries several times with no help till I had them cuffed...not by magnificent strength or prowess...but by common sense...betcha I can do it again...if a man wants to sit outside and wait...his choice...I'd rather be "dumb"...
by speedsix
Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:41 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Iraq War Veteran Holds Burglary Suspect at Gunpoint
Replies: 15
Views: 1443

Re: Iraq War Veteran Holds Burglary Suspect at Gunpoint

...we're told the police have no legal responsibility to protect us, then the police badmouth us when we act lawfully to protect ourselves and say we should have called the police...if it's my house, it's my business...if I can handle it without them, I'll call them to write the report...having been one, I don't like the way a lot of 'em respond...I've called police on a burglar in a business, told them that he broke open the back door and went in...flagged them down as they were driving by outside...they denied getting a call...told them that the burglar was in there working on a coke machine...and they went up and rattled the front door...both of them...scaring him so that he ran out the back door and towards me, who made an unfriendly gesture and he changed directions...he changed directions and was gone...I looked up the report later and it was about three sentences...lacking pertinent details...too many cases like this one involving residences and businesses...the guy did well and showed professionalism and admirable restraint...he gets an A+...

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