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by jmoney
Sat Oct 11, 2014 3:39 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Shall Sign Legislation-NFA
Replies: 5
Views: 2193

Re: Shall Sign Legislation-NFA

That is what they requested.

Instead the ATF decided

Under the proposed rule, a legal entity would be required to complete the following steps in addition to completing the applicable Form 1, 4, or 5 before it is permitted to make or receive an NFA firearm:
1. Complete and submit proposed Form 5320.23 for each responsible person;
2. Submit fingerprints, photographs, and CLEO certificate for each responsible person; and
3. Submit a copy of the documentation that establishes the legal existence of the legal entity.
In addition, under the proposed rule, information required on the existing ATF Form 5330.20 would be incorporated into the ATF Forms 1, 4, and 5.

ATF disregarded that request completely and instead just asked for "public comment" which is now closed and under review. Because it is unlikely that ATF will get rid of the of CLEO requirement, and the newly circulated form 41p draft is already showing the signature spot for CLEO, I once again ask what I did originally.
by jmoney
Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:43 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Shall Sign Legislation-NFA
Replies: 5
Views: 2193

Re: Shall Sign Legislation-NFA

The upcoming rule change, which will probably go into effect Jan 1, will require CLEO sign off for trust and corporations, just like a personal application.

Arizona, Kentucky, Kansas, and Utah have now passed shall sign legislation to prevent CLEOs from continuing to refuse signature of NFA forms for their own personal reasons. I also believe the Oklahoma legislature overruled the governor's veto of the bill there.
by jmoney
Sat Oct 11, 2014 9:58 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Shall Sign Legislation-NFA
Replies: 5
Views: 2193

Shall Sign Legislation-NFA

With the upcoming rule change, trusts and corporations will unlikely be a safe avenue for persons wishing to legally purchase NFA restricted items. I find it highly doubtful that the ATF will exclude the upcoming CLEO certification for trust forms, especially since their new 41p form draft shows the line for their signature. Furthermore, the rule change appears to be done just to irritate responsible gun owners since none of the rule change really effects criminal enterprise in any fashion whatsoever.

Numerous states have now passed shall sign legislation. This legislation compels the CLEO to sign off on NFA documents unless the candidate does not meet one of the normal bars to firearm ownership. There is absolutely no reason why we should not have such a bill in Texas.

My question is:

(1) Is anyone aware of such a bill already in preparation for the next session?
(2) If not, who can I get in touch with to help get this done. I have a few more weeks twiddling my thumbs while I wait for bar exam results and am more than happy to help get this moving, if I can be of assistance.

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