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by RottenApple
Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:52 am
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: Texas LEO shoots family dog at wrong address
Replies: 143
Views: 17718

Re: Texas LEO shoots family dog at wrong address

EEllis wrote:Check again. If the fence is unlock and not posted then you can't show that it is intended to keep someone out, kind of useless putting up a security fence that doesn't lock right, so you can't get a trespass charge on it.

Here http://caselaw.findlaw.com/fl-district- ... 65541.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; is a case in Florida. Now cops enter for totally different reasons and basicly this is about an appeal of a conviction but the part that may interest you is the court found that if you have an unlocked unposted gate and want privacy then....
I couldn't care less about FL law. We're talking about Texas. And TX law is quite clear that the fence alone is barrier enough.
EEllis wrote:Now some will complain again that cops are being treated differently being allowed to trespass but know the whole point is that it isn't criminal trespass for anyone.
Moving the goal posts again I see. I never said that the COP was trespassing. The hypothetical Girl Scout you brought up, OTH, most definitely was. 30.05 has a specific exemption for LEOs. So while this officer(s) weren't trespassing (which I think is a bunch of bull since they were at the wrong house), they were 1) at the wrong location, 2) discharged a firearm recklessly (3 shots, 1 hit, and a 6yo boy nearby), 3) traumatized a little boy & family due to their error, 4) should be held civilly and criminally liable for their mistake.
by RottenApple
Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:39 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: Texas LEO shoots family dog at wrong address
Replies: 143
Views: 17718

Re: Texas LEO shoots family dog at wrong address

EEllis wrote:You do know that is not the law right? If a kid entered not only would they not be in violation of any law but if attacked the dog owner would most likely be civilly and even criminally liable in some cases. I feel for the dog and glad the cop missed but ............
Then please show us exactly where I am wrong?

Edit: Nevermind. I'll just show you where you are wrong.
§ 30.05. CRIMINAL TRESPASS. (a) A person commits an
offense if he enters or remains on or in property, including an
aircraft or other vehicle, of another without effective consent or
he enters or remains in a building of another without effective
consent and he:
(1) had notice that the entry was forbidden; or
(2) received notice to depart but failed to do so.
(b) For purposes of this section:
(1) "Entry" means the intrusion of the entire body.
(2) "Notice" means:
(A) oral or written communication by the owner or
someone with apparent authority to act for the owner;
(B) fencing or other enclosure obviously
designed to exclude intruders or to contain livestock
You can continue reading 30.05 if you like, but there is no legal requirement for a gate to be locked.
by RottenApple
Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:10 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: Texas LEO shoots family dog at wrong address
Replies: 143
Views: 17718

Re: Texas LEO shoots family dog at wrong address

EEllis wrote:Was the property locked or posted? Because it could of been a girl scout coming to sell cookies and ending up mauled.
Then she was entering gated (doesn't matter if its locked or not) private property and was trespassing.

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