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by RottenApple
Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:50 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: JAMA says more gun laws fewer deaths
Replies: 18
Views: 1924

Re: JAMA says more gun laws fewer deaths

RX8er wrote:I find much interest in this:
"Correlation does not imply causation," he wrote. "This fundamental limitation is beyond the power of the authors to redress."

He added that the list of laws takes no account of differences between states in the specifics of laws and takes no account of how hard states worked to enforce those laws.

The biggest difficulty, Wintemute continued, is that almost all of the associations between more laws and fewer deaths disappeared when the investigators took into account the prevalence of gun ownership in each state.

"This is a problem because there are two completely opposite explanations for why that might be the case," Wintemute said in a video issued by his university. "One is that these laws work, and that they work by decreasing the rate of gun ownership in a state, because we know that the rate of gun ownership is associated with the rate of violent death in a state.

"But the other possibility, that's at least as plausible, is that it's easier to enact these laws in states that have a low rate of gun ownership to begin with. Gun ownership is not as important in those states, there's less opposition."

He added, "We really don't know what to do with the results. We cannot say that these laws -- individually or in aggregate -- drive firearm death rates up or down."
IOW, "we spent a lot of research money and didn't manage to learn a single useful thing". That about sum it up? :leaving
by RottenApple
Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:21 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: JAMA says more gun laws fewer deaths
Replies: 18
Views: 1924

Re: JAMA says more gun laws fewer deaths

They obviously haven't looked at Chicago. :banghead:

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