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by RoyGBiv
Fri May 18, 2018 4:04 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Oliver North to speak at 30.06ed Church
Replies: 44
Views: 14541

Re: Oliver North to speak at 30.06ed Church

flechero wrote:
flechero wrote:
I'm with you... why should a property owner be able to restrict something that doesn't affect his property... whether my attire, what's in my pocket or concealed on my belt?
Funny thing when I posted that comment I originally thought about a delineation between business and residential property...

My intent in that comment was about business and retail property where the "public" is welcome. I do believe that if you invite the public in for profit, you give up your right to dictate every aspect. Whether I am shopping and have a rock in my pocket or a snub nose revolver, it make no difference to the property owner, his bottom line or his other customers, assuming I'm not assaulted while inside.

I respect the rights of a homeowner to prohibit carry in his or her own house. I won't visit them, but won't argue as I don't have to be there. :tiphat:
Exactly this.
I have no expectation about being allowed to carry into a persons private residence or any property that is not open to the public. But when you invite the public into your business, there are myriad things that the government requires you to do. ADA compliance, fire extinguishers, health code, volumes of workplace laws. There are, literally, hundreds (thousands?) of pages of laws that trump "property rights" in public businesses, many of them for good reason. So why do we allow legislators to hide behind "property rights" as a reason to vote against pro-law-abiding and pro-gun legislation? Is a God-given, enumerated right subordinate to a need for a fire extinguisher?
by RoyGBiv
Fri May 18, 2018 12:33 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Oliver North to speak at 30.06ed Church
Replies: 44
Views: 14541

Re: Oliver North to speak at 30.06ed Church

Soccerdad1995 wrote:In Texas, private property owners are legally allowed to limit the civil rights of visitors, even if the exercise of those civil rights do not harm the property owners or anyone else in any way. Some of us cheer this as a win for private property rights. Some of us think this is unfortunate and do not believe that private property rights should extend to all aspects of a visitors life. I'm in the second category.

IMHO, a pro 2A organization should not endorse a private property owners' decision to ban firearms, even if such a decision is legal.
I intend to show up at the Capitol at the appropriate hearing in 2019 and call out the hipocrisy of hiding behind "private property" as an excuse for not passing good gun legislation while the regulations on businesses and what they are compelled to do by the same "private property loving" legislative body continues to multiply.
by RoyGBiv
Fri May 18, 2018 9:39 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Oliver North to speak at 30.06ed Church
Replies: 44
Views: 14541

Re: Oliver North to speak at 30.06ed Church

The incoming President of the NRA is speaking at an event that will prohibit the lawful carry of firearms. :roll:
I hope this was something that was scheduled before he accepted the NRA position... ? (I assume it was)

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