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I'd swear the exception language wasn't on the sign when I was there, but at 11 Pm after a very long day, it's certainly possible I just missed it. Wouldn't be the first time I inconvenienced myself by not paying attention to the details.

C-dub wrote:

RoyGBiv wrote:

OldCurlyWolf wrote:Since most WM's sell Wine & Beer and probably some in NM also sell Liquor, they may be mistakenly be posting because it is a felony in NM to open carry in any place that sells liquor and also to carry in any manner where booze is sold for on premise consumption under certain conditions.

My read of NM law is that carry is not prohibited if liquor/beer/wine sales are not for on premise consumption.
I'd be surprised if Walmart was not up to speed on the local law.

http://law.justia.com/codes/new-mexico/ ... tion30-7-3
See sections 4 & 4a

Interesting side note... according to 30-7-3 /4b, no carry in a restaurant that serves any liquor at all, and if the restaurant serves beer/wine, carry is prohibited by statute if beer/wine are 40% of sales or higher (compared to our 51%).

I thought I read where it had to be at least 60% when looking around for their sign requirements earlier today or yesterday.

Minimum 60% food sales or more = ok for carry in a beer/wine licensed premise. So, maximum 39.999% beer/wine.
The language is a bit convoluted.

OldCurlyWolf wrote:Since most WM's sell Wine & Beer and probably some in NM also sell Liquor, they may be mistakenly be posting because it is a felony in NM to open carry in any place that sells liquor and also to carry in any manner where booze is sold for on premise consumption under certain conditions.

My read of NM law is that carry is not prohibited if liquor/beer/wine sales are not for on premise consumption.
I'd be surprised if Walmart was not up to speed on the local law.

http://law.justia.com/codes/new-mexico/ ... tion30-7-3
See sections 4 & 4a

Interesting side note... according to 30-7-3 /4b, no carry in a restaurant that serves any liquor at all, and if the restaurant serves beer/wine, carry is prohibited by statute if beer/wine are 40% of sales or higher (compared to our 51%).

WildBill wrote:From Wikipedia

Gallup is known as the "Heart of Indian Country" because it is in the middle of the Navajo reservation and home to many tribes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallup,_N ... mographics

It has close proximity to Native American reservations,

Looking at a Google map and at the Federal Lands map... I don't believe the land the WalMart is on is tribal... Possible, but believe not.
http://nationalmap.gov/small_scale/prin ... nds/NM.pdf
If I would have know those crime stats when we were deciding where to stop, I likely would have kept driving.
I certainly would not have gone to WalMart at 11:PM...

G26ster wrote:

RoyGBiv wrote:

C-dub wrote:Right where? Was there supposed to be a picture or link?

Sorry. No pic.

Right there = 18"sign in the middle of the two sliding doors at every entrance.

Don't you think it might be nice to tell us what the sign said? Or, is this a test? Or, are we supposed to just guess?

It said "No Firearms Allowed on these Premises"...
Such signs have the force of law in NM.

Never meant to make you guess... just wasn't relevant, since ANY "No Guns" sign has force of law in NM.

Didn't want to take a photo just then... would have drawn too much attention.

WTR wrote:Gallup is know as the most dangerous city in NM. I wouldn't be surprised if it is on tribal land.

The Walmart was pretty busy at 11PM local. Folks didn't look especially sketchy, (lots of young-ish Native Americans, many with kids in tow) but I didn't need that chap stick badly enough to disarm in the parking lot to go get it. The gas station had one the next morning.

The scariest part of this trip was landing in Bakersfield, not finding my bag, and when I asked the TSA agent to point me to the baggage office he said (loudly) "Did you check a firearm?" Nearly messed my pants being outed in California in the first 5 minutes. (I was 100% California compliant, but still unnerving)

38cobra wrote:Maybe it's tribal law - that's reservation country there.

According to Wikipedia (grain of salt) Gallup is near tribal land but not described as being a part of tribal land. Good thought.. Would explain the off limits if not the logic.

Thanks!

C-dub wrote:Right where? Was there supposed to be a picture or link?

Sorry. No pic.

Right there = 18"sign in the middle of the two sliding doors at every entrance.

I'm gobsmacked!

Right there on the sliding doors.