I was just trying to be polite and non threatening.drjoker wrote:Actually, these conversations DO change things because not all Whole Foods have these signs so it's probably at the discretion of the store's manager.RoyGBiv wrote: Me: I don't expect this conversation to change anything. I just thought I'd let you know that you have lost a customer.
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- Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:28 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Whole Foods Markets Posting 30.06 Signs
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Re: Whole Foods Markets Posting 30.06 Signs
- Sun Sep 07, 2014 3:03 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Whole Foods Markets Posting 30.06 Signs
- Replies: 59
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Re: Whole Foods Markets Posting 30.06 Signs
TAM
The sign is posted on the glass entry doors at about head height. Approaching the left most door there are some displays outside that could block/distract from seeing the sign, but I thought it was legally posted, or close enough.
White sign, black letters.
Actually, it might have been on one of the moving doors.
Easy enough to miss if you're not looking for it though.
Cheers.
The sign is posted on the glass entry doors at about head height. Approaching the left most door there are some displays outside that could block/distract from seeing the sign, but I thought it was legally posted, or close enough.
White sign, black letters.
Actually, it might have been on one of the moving doors.
Easy enough to miss if you're not looking for it though.
Cheers.
- Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:52 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Whole Foods Markets Posting 30.06 Signs
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Re: Whole Foods Markets Posting 30.06 Signs
I stopped by WF in Colleyville yesterday to find it posted. Looked like the letter size may have been a bit small, but it was close enough for me to not be certain, so I disarmed. I picked up the few items on my wifes list and had a short chat with the manager.
Me: I know it's probably corporate policy and there's nothing you can do, but I thought I would let you know that this will be my last visit to your store.
WF: Why?
Me: I won't do business with places that prohibit honest citizens from carrying legal concealed weapons.
WF: If you've lived in Colleyville for any time, you know how safe it is here.
Me: I've been carrying a gun for nearly 20 years now, and in 20 years I've only needed to draw it once. But if I didn't have it at that moment, when I didn't expect to need it, I wouldn't be here to complain to you today (OK, I was embellishing a bit on that one.)
WF: Well, Kroger is also going to post signs now too.
Me: Actually, I've spoken with Krogers corporate office to thank them for NOT posting signs and they've assured me that they don't plan to change their policy.
WF: but...
Me: I don't expect this conversation to change anything. I just thought I'd let you know that you have lost a customer. That sign actually makes it LESS safe to shop here. A criminal sees that sign and knows that the odds of an honest person being able to defend themselves is even lower in your store. Or they can just wait for me in the parking lot with my hands full of groceries, knowing that I'm not armed. If you get the chance, maybe you'll let your corporate folks know that not all your customers are foolish enough to feel safer just because you've posted a sign.
WF: OK, I'm sorry
Me: No hard feelings. Have a nice day.
----- Later ----
Me (to wife): Whatever you need at WF we can get a Central Market or Market Street from now on, or the new giant Kroger when it opens in a few months. I won't be going back to WF (I explain why)
Wife: Ok.. no problem.
Me: I know it's probably corporate policy and there's nothing you can do, but I thought I would let you know that this will be my last visit to your store.
WF: Why?
Me: I won't do business with places that prohibit honest citizens from carrying legal concealed weapons.
WF: If you've lived in Colleyville for any time, you know how safe it is here.
Me: I've been carrying a gun for nearly 20 years now, and in 20 years I've only needed to draw it once. But if I didn't have it at that moment, when I didn't expect to need it, I wouldn't be here to complain to you today (OK, I was embellishing a bit on that one.)
WF: Well, Kroger is also going to post signs now too.
Me: Actually, I've spoken with Krogers corporate office to thank them for NOT posting signs and they've assured me that they don't plan to change their policy.
WF: but...
Me: I don't expect this conversation to change anything. I just thought I'd let you know that you have lost a customer. That sign actually makes it LESS safe to shop here. A criminal sees that sign and knows that the odds of an honest person being able to defend themselves is even lower in your store. Or they can just wait for me in the parking lot with my hands full of groceries, knowing that I'm not armed. If you get the chance, maybe you'll let your corporate folks know that not all your customers are foolish enough to feel safer just because you've posted a sign.
WF: OK, I'm sorry
Me: No hard feelings. Have a nice day.
----- Later ----
Me (to wife): Whatever you need at WF we can get a Central Market or Market Street from now on, or the new giant Kroger when it opens in a few months. I won't be going back to WF (I explain why)
Wife: Ok.. no problem.
- Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:19 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Whole Foods Markets Posting 30.06 Signs
- Replies: 59
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Re: Whole Foods Markets Posting 30.06 Signs
My first visit to a whole Foods in TX was about 2 weeks ago. I shopped at WF in NC occasionally when I lived there a decade ago. Clearly, I am not their target customer. Some good looking Tuna in their seafood case, a few interesting microbrews and lots of very expensive other stuff I don't eat. Seems I could find the things I WOULD consume at other markets for less money. There was no 30.06 posting I could find. [Colleyville location, ~1-August]
I'm saddened by their 30.06 rollout, moreso because it reflects a reliance on wishful thinking ("Hope") rather than reality.
Apparently, the majority of their customer base PREFERS 30.06 signs to the harsh reality of having to consider the possibility of self defense.
Madison weeps.
I'm saddened by their 30.06 rollout, moreso because it reflects a reliance on wishful thinking ("Hope") rather than reality.
Apparently, the majority of their customer base PREFERS 30.06 signs to the harsh reality of having to consider the possibility of self defense.
Madison weeps.