I was thinking the same thing..RPB wrote:Rex B wrote:Now the Russians are lecturing us on elections. Imagine that!
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- Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:26 am
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: UN to Monitor Elections in Texas
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Re: UN to Monitor Elections in Texas
- Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:35 am
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: UN to Monitor Elections in Texas
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I'm guessing some Federal authority to grant "observer" status to them would trump state law.Purplehood wrote:What grants them immunity in the first place?
They can argue their arrest in court after the election, as far as I'm concerned.
If Benghazi and Fast & Furious cant wait, so can the UN.
- Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:10 am
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: UN to Monitor Elections in Texas
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Actually they are not "part of the UN".
They are "recognized" as a "regional arrangement" by the UN, as is permitted under UN Charter Chapter VIII. Very different.
http://www.un.org/en/documents/charter/chapter8.shtml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Thanks to gdanaher for pointing out my incorrect understanding.
I still don't like it. They should keep out.
They are "recognized" as a "regional arrangement" by the UN, as is permitted under UN Charter Chapter VIII. Very different.
http://www.un.org/en/documents/charter/chapter8.shtml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Thanks to gdanaher for pointing out my incorrect understanding.
I still don't like it. They should keep out.
- Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:22 am
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: UN to Monitor Elections in Texas
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When the dems lose the election by one state, and then these ACORN-requested UN "monitors" go around complaining about all the irregularities they "witnessed", you can bet that Obama won't be as gracious as Al Gore was in 2000. More fast-and-furious pandering, obfuscation, executive orders and executive privilege will surely ensue. What's the chance these "monitors" would stand up for the Red team if it was appropriate to do so? Biased, non-American, "observers" have no business looking over our shoulders.JCole wrote:I'm curious to know why this is such a big problem in this particular election. As far as I can tell, George Bush first invited this group in to monitor elections in 2004. I don't really have any strong feelings about this myself, and I can't remember having even heard of this monitoring by the OSCE (it's not the UN) being an issue in the past. I'm not trying to start an argument, just seeking clarification.
YMMV.
(Did I actually use "Al Gore" and "gracious" in the same sentence? )
- Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:00 am
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: UN to Monitor Elections in Texas
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Thanks.! Letter of support sent.!bronco78 wrote:greg.abbott@texasattorneygeneral.gov
- Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:10 am
- Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
- Topic: UN to Monitor Elections in Texas
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I've been searching Texas Statutes for the one that clearly defines the law that any UN observer would be breaking.Jim Beaux wrote:His choice of words is leaving Abbot an out:
This is either a violation of the law or it isnt, and breaking the law SHALLsubject the violator to arrest and prosecution. The way things have been shoved down our throats, I wouldnt be surprised if the UN ends up doing whatever it wants.Abbott's letter concludes: "It may be a criminal offense for OSCE's representatives to maintain a presence within 100 feet of a polling place's entrance. Failure to comply with these requirements could subject the OSCE's representatives to criminal prosecution for violating state law."--http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/10/24/51604.htm
I have not yet found it.
All I can find is the election code that clearly describes why an international observer is not allowed. This language is unambiguous (see below). But, I don't find any penalty for an ineligible person attempting to be a "watcher". I further find it curious that the TX AG didn't provide a specific reference to the law on his threat of arrest of UN observers within 100 feet of a polling place.
If anyone can provide the code citations, they would be appreciated.
http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/txstatutes/EL/3/33/B/33.031" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
ETA:(a) To be eligible to serve as a watcher, a person must be a qualified voter:
(1) of the county in which the person is to serve, in an election ordered by the governor or a county authority or in a primary election;
(2) of the part of the county in which the election is held, in an election ordered by the governor or a county authority that does not cover the entire county of the person's residence; and
(3) of the political subdivision, in an election ordered by an authority of a political subdivision other than a county.
(b) The Alcoholic Beverage Code supersedes this section to the extent of any conflict.
There is a long list of defined election violations in this document on pages 10 and 11. In my opinion, it would be a stretch to apply any of these to a UN observer just standing around outside a polling place.
http://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/[abbreviated profanity deleted] ... er2012.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;