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by RoyGBiv
Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:24 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: 12 States Considering Permitless Carry Laws
Replies: 33
Views: 4581

Re: 12 States Considering Permitless Carry Laws

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Wyoming
On March 2, 2011 Wyoming Governor Matt Mead signed legislation to allow Constitutional Carry.[2] [3] The law officially went into effect on July 1, 2011. Under the law residents can carry concealed or openly without a permit but visitors to the state must have a valid concealed carry permit from a jurisdiction that is recognized by the State of Wyoming.
by RoyGBiv
Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:14 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: 12 States Considering Permitless Carry Laws
Replies: 33
Views: 4581

Re: 12 States Considering Permitless Carry Laws

Purplehood wrote:
RoyGBiv wrote: The permit system should be kept and licenses issued for reciprocity reasons.
The 2nd Amendment does not demand reciprocity.

/sorry... had to vent.
I agree... I was working through the logic of how we'd get from here to there... An interim step would likely be to go to Constitutional Carry by state. All you need is a DL issued by your state. So if you wanted to carry in other states...

I need to check... of the states that have Const. Carry, how many extend it to non-residents visiting the state?
by RoyGBiv
Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:53 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: 12 States Considering Permitless Carry Laws
Replies: 33
Views: 4581

Re: 12 States Considering Permitless Carry Laws

Oldgringo wrote:It's about the money... You know, kinda' like front licenses plates and inspection fees for your vehicles.
Don't get me started on "Title Insurance"...
Texans should be ashamed.
by RoyGBiv
Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:11 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: 12 States Considering Permitless Carry Laws
Replies: 33
Views: 4581

Re: 12 States Considering Permitless Carry Laws

A-R wrote:Roy, I agree with you. Was merely brainstorming an intermediate solution.
I was not disagreeing with you at all... Just taking it a bit further...
The more I think about it, the sillier the whole "permit thing" feels to me..

It's a feel-good thing for those that would be opposed, and for that I will support it 100% until we can win the remaining hearts and minds. This is just water-cooler chat among peers.. :mrgreen:
by RoyGBiv
Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:26 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: 12 States Considering Permitless Carry Laws
Replies: 33
Views: 4581

Re: 12 States Considering Permitless Carry Laws

If a BG wants to carry a gun, is he/she going to get any kind of permit?
So... what exactly is the point of a permit then? Answer: To make it harder for honest citizens to carry.

If a LEO has a suspicion about me, they can run my DL and find out all they need to know in 30 seconds, 99% of the time.

If you want to carry, the only thing you should be compelled to have is "proper ID", however you wish to reasonably define that.

The permit system should be kept and licenses issued for reciprocity reasons. But the cost and requirements should be much, much less... $25 is reasonable.. The idea that the TX CHL class imparts any real "training" is just silly. I can read the CHL-16 in a few hours without a translator. I watched two very nice retired ladies shoot solid proficiency scores. It was their second-time-ever shooting a handgun and they were both shaking like leaves in the wind while we were chatting in the waiting room at the range.

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