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by RoyGBiv
Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:58 am
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Topic: debit card / credit card
Replies: 30
Views: 7200

Re: debit card / credit card

powerboatr wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:53 am this morning my dollars were refunded back into my account, we are very happy. I see a new 1911 in my future as i already expensed these funds in my check book, and moved on. windfall right :shock: sorry i just had to get a smile after this crap show

both the fraudulent charges and one non fraud.
now i have to call my chiropractor and pay my deductible again :biggrinjester: :tiphat: :clapping: i gave them a heads up last week, so hopefully he doesn't hurt me on the rack next week


:smilelol5:
Happy ending. Glad it got sorted and didn't take too long. :thumbs2:
by RoyGBiv
Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:27 am
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: debit card / credit card
Replies: 30
Views: 7200

Re: debit card / credit card

powerboatr wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:02 pm
RoyGBiv wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:48 pm
powerboatr wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:59 pm
RoyGBiv wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:18 am Never use a debit card, ever.
My ATM card has a debit charge limit of $0.00. A call to your bank or mine let's me set this limit online, separately from my ATM limit.
Always tap to pay, when possible.

Our fraud on credit cards dropped hugely once daughter graduated college and stopped swiping the card at gas stations in college town.
never thought about that. we use the debit alot because the 3% is not charged to the bank
but i think a re think is in order


as a good note, today i had to get gas for my wifes car, i met a guy at motel 6, sold my kidney.
then used my credit visa card to pay for the fuel. the machine asked for my zip code only, no pin. and i really looked at the security strip on the reader and wiggled it to make sure it was attached , probably did nothing, but it made me feel better :biggrinjester:
we are going to try this for 30 days and see how it goes, we cary zero bal on the visa, and if we pay the balance before the posting date there is no interest.

i have to read about tap to pay?
my wife is still severely upset she feels like she did something because it happened 2 times now since apr.
she shops more than me so odds are not in her favor.

although the last month i have done most of grocery runs as i have to run to doc every monday, saves us gas
:thumbs2:

To clarify a few things....

- The CC fee is charged to the merchant.... Typically, a merchant pays about 3% of the sale, plus a swipe fee of ~$0.25 - 0.35 per transaction. If you use a debit card, the merchant pays the same, or maybe a slightly lower fee. My businesses that take credit/debit cards pay these fees. There are ways of reducing them, but, that's for another thread.

- The best thing about CREDIT cards is that the money doesn't disappear from my account when I purchase something. I get a loan from the CC vendor until the payment is due, roughly, on average, 40 days from the purchase date. (30 day cycle + 25 days to pay after cycle closes).

- Paying your balance in full is wisdom. Interest on credit cards is some of the highest interest you'll ever pay. Lots of folks use debit cards to avoid spending money they don't have... While this is a wise intention, it's safer to keep track of your CC spend, use your line of credit wisely, and pay it off at the end of every cycle. This safeguards your bank account and minimizes the CC companys' profits since you use their money and never pay interest.

- I certainly try to avoid using my CC in sketchy places, BUT.... Every swipe goes through the "Gateway" assigned to the merchants account. The gateway analyzes the credit request and approves/denies the request on the spot, in seconds. This happens every time you use your card. Once the Gateway comes back with an approval, the merchant is off the hook for fraud and so are you.... If the gateway approves a charge from someone who isn't you, the merchant gets paid and all you need to do is call the CC company and report the fraud. They will take the charge off you account, investigate it, or not, and stop your card and issue a new number. No cash moves out of your bank account. Winning!

- There is absolutely NOTHING to be embarrassed about when your CC gets hit with fraud. It happens to everyone. The CC companies factor it into their fees. Using a CC let you keep the cash in your account, instead of having to ask the Debit card company for a reimbursement.

Cheers.
that has to be the best no pressure wisdom i have read today
i never thought about the use of the credit card that it does not pay right away. who knew? I should have :tiphat:
we use or debit as cash almost 100% of the time. and yes it comes out the checking account pretty fast, and i or my wife log receipts in my check register within 24 hrs so we know exactly what we have in the checking account.

i used the credit for gas this morning, something i never do. i just carry it for emergencies. but after this last round of fraud we are doing it different. all gas is on credit card and all purchases on the debit card will now be used as credit vice entering a pin. we are going to see how july rolls out.
thank you for the very laid back wisdom on me. :tiphat:
Happy to be of assistance. :tiphat:

Next-level CC advice....
My favorite CC providers are those that have a different card number for each card on the account. Me, Wife, Kid1, Kid2 each have different numbers, billed to the same account. They also let me have an "extra" card..... with a different number.

I use this "extra" card for all my auto-pay bills. Mobile phone, water bill, electric, etc. These vendors are almost never a source for fraud. If one of our cards gets hacked, we're able to cancel and re-issue that unique card number only. The others keep working. The biggest pain with any cards, credit or debit, is that if you get hacked, you need to figure out all of your auto-pay vendors and update your card number with them... I always forgot to update my toll-tag until the airport gate didn't open for me. :lol:

Cheers.
by RoyGBiv
Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:48 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: debit card / credit card
Replies: 30
Views: 7200

Re: debit card / credit card

powerboatr wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:59 pm
RoyGBiv wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:18 am Never use a debit card, ever.
My ATM card has a debit charge limit of $0.00. A call to your bank or mine let's me set this limit online, separately from my ATM limit.
Always tap to pay, when possible.

Our fraud on credit cards dropped hugely once daughter graduated college and stopped swiping the card at gas stations in college town.
never thought about that. we use the debit alot because the 3% is not charged to the bank
but i think a re think is in order


as a good note, today i had to get gas for my wifes car, i met a guy at motel 6, sold my kidney.
then used my credit visa card to pay for the fuel. the machine asked for my zip code only, no pin. and i really looked at the security strip on the reader and wiggled it to make sure it was attached , probably did nothing, but it made me feel better :biggrinjester:
we are going to try this for 30 days and see how it goes, we cary zero bal on the visa, and if we pay the balance before the posting date there is no interest.

i have to read about tap to pay?
my wife is still severely upset she feels like she did something because it happened 2 times now since apr.
she shops more than me so odds are not in her favor.

although the last month i have done most of grocery runs as i have to run to doc every monday, saves us gas
:thumbs2:

To clarify a few things....

- The CC fee is charged to the merchant.... Typically, a merchant pays about 3% of the sale, plus a swipe fee of ~$0.25 - 0.35 per transaction. If you use a debit card, the merchant pays the same, or maybe a slightly lower fee. My businesses that take credit/debit cards pay these fees. There are ways of reducing them, but, that's for another thread.

- The best thing about CREDIT cards is that the money doesn't disappear from my account when I purchase something. I get a loan from the CC vendor until the payment is due, roughly, on average, 40 days from the purchase date. (30 day cycle + 25 days to pay after cycle closes).

- Paying your balance in full is wisdom. Interest on credit cards is some of the highest interest you'll ever pay. Lots of folks use debit cards to avoid spending money they don't have... While this is a wise intention, it's safer to keep track of your CC spend, use your line of credit wisely, and pay it off at the end of every cycle. This safeguards your bank account and minimizes the CC companys' profits since you use their money and never pay interest.

- I certainly try to avoid using my CC in sketchy places, BUT.... Every swipe goes through the "Gateway" assigned to the merchants account. The gateway analyzes the credit request and approves/denies the request on the spot, in seconds. This happens every time you use your card. Once the Gateway comes back with an approval, the merchant is off the hook for fraud and so are you.... If the gateway approves a charge from someone who isn't you, the merchant gets paid and all you need to do is call the CC company and report the fraud. They will take the charge off you account, investigate it, or not, and stop your card and issue a new number. No cash moves out of your bank account. Winning!

- There is absolutely NOTHING to be embarrassed about when your CC gets hit with fraud. It happens to everyone. The CC companies factor it into their fees. Using a CC let you keep the cash in your account, instead of having to ask the Debit card company for a reimbursement.

Cheers.
by RoyGBiv
Thu Jun 30, 2022 9:18 am
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: debit card / credit card
Replies: 30
Views: 7200

Re: debit card / credit card

Never use a debit card, ever.
My ATM card has a debit charge limit of $0.00. A call to your bank or mine let's me set this limit online, separately from my ATM limit.
Always tap to pay, when possible.

Our fraud on credit cards dropped hugely once daughter graduated college and stopped swiping the card at gas stations in college town.

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