TexasCHLforum.com

srothstein wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:10 am

RoyGBiv wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:01 amI don't agree. Not in terms of a business that is open t the public.

Why is it ok to burden a business that is open to the public with things like employment rules, ADA compliance, restrictions on operating hours (liquor stores), and myriad other requirements but cave when it comes to requiring businesses open to the public to also honor the Second Ammendment, which predates all of the other government restrictions on their supposed "private property rights"?

I would propose that any business open to the general public should be required to honor the gun rights of their patrons.

Saying that it's ok to demand ADA compliance but not 2A is poppycock.
I look forward to the opportunity to express this in Austin this session, if appropriate.

I disagree with you and have a better proposal to fix the problem. Let's stop requiring businesses to obey most governmental rules like the ADA, employment pay and benefits, operating hours, etc. The flaw in your logic, as I see it, is the basic assumption that it is okay to require businesses to do these things to begin with. The only restrictions I accept on a business as okay are those that would directly harm an unsuspecting person, such as food purity laws.

I have a right to freedom of association. If i do not want to associate with people who are handicapped or of a specific religion or race or national origin, why should I have to give up my right to choose who I associate with simply because I run a business? If I am right, I will make money. If I am wrong, I will lose money and go out of business. Problem solved.

oohrah wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:17 am Private property rules overrule individual rights.

srothstein wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:34 am

RoyGBiv wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:05 am I hope that all of you planning to stop wearing masks entirely later this week will keep an appropriate distance from those of us that choose to keep wearing a mask inside public spaces.

I may be vaccinated, but I certainly do not want to inhale your unfiltered breath.

I plan on avoiding close encounters with you. Please allow me the opportunity.

I plan on continuing the exact same behavior that I have had for a year, I will wear a mask when required. The sole difference is that I will now be doing it because a store owner asked me to do so on their private property instead of a government mandate. I do believe that you, or any person or corporation may make the rules for your private property. My choice is if I want what you offer badly enough to wear a mask to get it or if it is not that important to me. Your choice as a business owner is if you want to sell to me badly enough to let me in without a mask or not. If people still want to practice their anti-social distancing (the correct name - social distancing ranges from holding my wife while we dance to being close enough for a quiet conversation and shaking hands), I will stay a safe distance away from them.

I decided last year that wearing a mask or not was not the hill I wanted to die on (as the expression goes) and it still isn't. I know the science behind masks and the obvious flaws in its logic. I also try to act civilized (realizing it is just an act and my preferred behavior) so I am polite and do not cause trouble by trying to force anyone else into my belief system. I may try to convince you in a polite discussion but I respect your right to have a different opinion than me. So, feel free to practice any rules you want to keep you safe. I will also do the same and will respect your wishes. I feel that this is how civilized people should act.

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:38 am

RoyGBiv wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:05 am I hope that all of you planning to stop wearing masks entirely later this week will keep an appropriate distance from those of us that choose to keep wearing a mask inside public spaces.

I may be vaccinated, but I certainly do not want to inhale your unfiltered breath.

I plan on avoiding close encounters with you. Please allow me the opportunity.

If you are wearing a mask and masks work, breathing unfiltered breath should not be an issue. If masks don't work, then there is no point in wearing them. (Conundrum).

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:24 pmMy daughter and sil told me they are disappointed I have not grown a tail yet. They said they were planning on selling tickets to look at my tail.

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:48 am

RoyGBiv wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:45 am

Flightmare wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:15 pmI'm curious what benefit taking the vaccine does for someone who has already had a positive diagnosis. If you actually had it, you should already have antibodies. A vaccine is going to do the same thing for your system. I'm no doctor or microbiologist...perhaps someone can help me understand.

1. The antibodies produced from the vaccine can be 10x the antibodies that exist in a convalescent patient.
2. The second dose of vaccine is intended to induce a greater T-cell response. This should (still being studied) give your immune system a longer "memory" should it encounter the virus again. Immunity from vaccination "should" last longer than immunity from having had COVID but no vaccination.

Again... Studies are ongoing.

Great explanation. Thanks. I am worried about how long the vaccine is effective. I am hoping it is not a yearly thing.

Flightmare wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:15 pmI'm curious what benefit taking the vaccine does for someone who has already had a positive diagnosis. If you actually had it, you should already have antibodies. A vaccine is going to do the same thing for your system. I'm no doctor or microbiologist...perhaps someone can help me understand.