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Recent indidents such as the DOE allegedly kicking in a door and terrorizing a family over a student loan do nothing to dissuade the "jackboot" association.

Godwin's Law is also a factor: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 100%"

Although I've been a gun owner and CHL for less than 6 months, I've been an avid hobby photographer for 6 years.

Most of my photography involves outdoor places, sometimes in areas where it's not completely clear if it's OK or wise to be photographing there. Also, onlookers often don't understand my motives and are sometimes uneasy about my presence. It just so happens that a common scernario for photographer run-ins involves Ship Channel Industry or waterways, and many involve police or security unfamiliar with photographer's rights.

I'm totally serious when I say this "underdog" experience has been of huge benefit in getting to understand the CHL mindset. Substitute the First Ammendment for the Second, and the plight is largely the same.

What I've learned is that it's often better to ask for forgiveness than permission unless the activity in question is clearly wrong, and that passive research is often preferable to directly asking. In fact, needless asking can actually be harmful as you can be told "no" unjustly, after which you will be open to extra scruitiny and will have perhaps even closed the door for others. This is the basis for my earlier comment about saying nothing rather than discussing the parking lot bill with a supervisor.

However, given that guns are more serious than cameras, we need to be more careful in our assumptions.

LTUME1978 wrote:I was all excited to hear that the parking lot bill passed and was discussing that with one of the managers at our refinery.

To me it would seem best not to bring it up at all.