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Thanks all of the replies and input. Life has been pretty crazy for me do I have not had real chance to invest time or money but when i do I will share what I find.

I am very limited with the uniform I am required to wear is the problem that creates the most constrictions. It is something I have tossed around for about a year but due to recent events disclosed to us about a fellow employee I have decided until I can find another job I need to think about being armed.

thus far I believe the kangaroo carry is exactly what I had in mind. Its hard to say because I have never had luck with the "one size fits all" holsters. Pocket carry is not an option either. If it sounds like im being picky is because. #1 yes I am #2 I have tried some of these already.

5 8' 195 pounds shorter stocky frame. carrying a Glock 27. The 5.11 shirts seem like a good theory but it would tie me to that shirt. I dont want to use any kind of pants or shirts so I have the option to carry with whatever I am wearing. I will check out these holster ideas. Thanks.

need something, none ankle, that is not IWB. Why? basically I want a way to conceal with comfort regardless of body movement or placement. IE stooping, bending, jumping, running.

I have seen those concealed carry "shirts" I think its a good theory but not really seen anything good to shift me that direction. Not to mention that would tie me to that shirt despite other clothing. This could be my "gym" or deep BUG. Maybe a hybrid shoulder holster system of some sort to were underneath a shirt?

Thoughts?