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by Mithras61
Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:25 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Police compromising your concealment
Replies: 70
Views: 9329

Re: Police compromising your concealment

YabuUS wrote:
Mithras61 wrote: :iagree: I also agree with the poster who suggested complaining to the officer's supervisor.
Not sure taking it up with the supervisor would do any good. The officer who made the "request" was a sergeant. His supervisor, a Lieutenant, was standing behind him surveying the room and nodding as the sergeant spoke. Not much point in complaining to him.

As a footnote let me add this. Back in 1995 when the concealed carry law was passed, I was acquainted with a couple of Houston police officers and had coffee with them from time to time. At one of our coffee sessions I asked one of these fellows how he felt about the new law. He said that as far as he knew the Houston Police Dept. was not very happy with the new law. They didn't like the idea of citizens walking around with guns. He thought it was a very bad idea. I wonder if the problem we have been discussing on this thread is not a sign that there is some lingering resentment within the police department over this law.
Regarding the sergeant & his lieutenant, take it on up the chain of command until your concerns are addressed or at least taken seriously. This isn't an "embarrassment" to the CHLer, its sowing fear & distrust, and suggesting that those who are most likely in need of such protection (a handgun) cannot be trusted to have one.

I think you may be right about the lingering resentment (as evidenced by some spokesmodel for the department recently in blaming the increase in police shootings on legal firearms carriers - sort of "its your own darn fault"), but I really don't care if their feelings are hurt. What they are doing is a violation of the statutes (I don't recall the exact citation, but they can only disarm you if they reasonably believe it is necessary for the safety of the CHL holder and/or the officer, but that's the only allowed reason, and in such a setting their fear isn't reasonable).
by Mithras61
Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:39 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Police compromising your concealment
Replies: 70
Views: 9329

Re: Police compromising your concealment

Purplehood wrote:I think the whole situation is totally outrageous.

- No prior notice was given.
- CHL holders would be "out'ed" in front of friends and neighbors
- Was this procedure previously approved at the board or HOA meeting?

In any event, the outting of CHL holders is reprehensible.

Call me annoyed. [not to be confused with any other posters "annoyed" handle on this forum]
:iagree: I also agree with the poster who suggested complaining to the officer's supervisor. Asking in a group where some are sure to be frightened by the response if given in the affirmative is unreasonable in the extreme. Outing someone in this fashion could be construed as attempting to cause a scene or a panic. The officer should know better than this, and if he can't either find a way to handle it more discretely, or even better stop harrasing innocent CHLers, then he needs to get a different job!

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