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Through the new fantastic online TABC searchable database, I can see what happened and when!

I submitted the form via email on Feb. 22 (notating for them to please respond via email)

The premises was checked on March 15 and they received a written warning for "Failure to Properly Display a Permit or License" and a written warning for "Failure to Post Required Sign"

They had a red sign up and their license is blue.

I called April 6 to get an update and they called me back April 7 and notified me two warnings were issued.

I don't think a 3-4 work turnaround is bad at all. The two people I talked with via phone from the Houston office were very professional and they get much respect. Them along with the TABC as a whole for putting the database online

JP171 wrote:

wcalvert wrote:Got a call back just now from a very nice person at the TABC Houston office.

He said a compliance officer was sent out and they were issued 2 warnings. One for improper posting and one for another form of that wording.

Sounds like that they A) Had a red sign instead of blue and B) improper sign location.

I'll have to stop by and check it out and throw a few games. I now feel a lot better knowing that I can probably carry my gun with me

yea right up untill someone figures out about the 30.06 sign

Well, they have three doors that are unlocked entrances, so I will be sure to let the TABC if they post improperly. They probably don't get warnings the second time an agent is sent out and finds inconsistencies.

Got a call back just now from a very nice person at the TABC Houston office.

He said a compliance officer was sent out and they were issued 2 warnings. One for improper posting and one for another form of that wording.

Sounds like that they A) Had a red sign instead of blue and B) improper sign location.

I'll have to stop by and check it out and throw a few games. I now feel a lot better knowing that I can probably carry my gun with me

Keith B wrote:

wcalvert wrote:Any thoughts on how long I should give the TABC to contact me back? I'm going to set a reminder for a month from now and give them a call if I don't hear anything.

I wouldn't go more than a week without hearing something.

I still haven't heard anything back, and I just followed up with them. Called the Houston office, and I got a nice lady who put me on hold for a few minutes and came back and said that all of the officers were out and she would take down my info and call me back. Semi-against my better judgement, I left my name and number and she said that they would call me back ASAP. I asked when she though (later today, tomorrow, next week, etc) and she said very soon and that she apologized about not having anybody there. I'll give them until about 3PM tomorrow before I call back

Any thoughts on how long I should give the TABC to contact me back? I'm going to set a reminder for a month from now and give them a call if I don't hear anything.

I'm bumping an old thread that I started, but I have a small update. I went back there for the first time since I posted originally (didn't file with TABC before) and confirmed the what I had seen before and filed the complaint via email to the TABC today. Will update thread when I get a response.

Keith B wrote:AMF Humble Bowl shows to have a Food and Beverage license in the TABC public database, so they have the 51% sign improperly posted as they can't be 51% with an FB.

If you contact the TABC, they will have them remove the sign and make sure they have the correct 'Unlicensed possession' signs up.

Thank you for the info (and everyb ody else for their thoughts as well).
One possibility that i'm thinking of is that their license covers the food area and that their bar may be separate. I will contact the TABC and will bump this thread with the result.

C-dub wrote:My apologies!

I'll try again.

To the OP, was the 51% sign red?

yes it was red. 51% are only red. The blue sign that people are referring to says nothing about percentages and talks about unlawful possession because alcohol is sold on the premises. if they want to ban handguns with a blue sign then they need to put up a 30.06 as well.

Teamless wrote:I started a very similar thread a few months ago
see: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=33095&hilit=+bowling" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Basically, it depends on the license that the bowling center has.
In my case, it was also AMF (Alpha Lanes - Webster) and I sent a note to TABC via email, they went in, did an audit and fined the center for wrongful posting of the signs.

In the end, ONLY the bar was posted 51% after TABC was done with them.

If this is the case, then I think this bowling alley is doing it correctly. I'm not even going to try venturing into the legality of me being able to order a beer from outside the "bar area".

The main point of my post was to make sure that I could conceal carry while bowling, not while getting a drink at the bar.

In the end, it's one of those situations where I'll just give my buddy the cash to go get us a pitcher

Hello everyone! First post here. I just completed my CHL class last weekend and got my packet off on Monday, but I've started training myself to look for 51% and 30.06 signs.

At the AMF Bowling Center in Humble (NE Houston) Address: 19214 Highway 59 N, Humble, TX

they have an interesting sign situation. I'm going to need a visual aid for this one.



The bar area as some other signage around, like nobody under 21 allowed and they have a 51% sign behind the counter on the mirror. The 51% sign faces the south wall in this drawing. They have different carpet, but there is no door to enter the bar. If you went bowling and never got anything from the bar, you would have no idea it was there. The other thing, is that you can order from the bar and never see the 51% sign. I used a blue line where you can get service (bar counter) and it wraps around towards the separated food counter.

Thoughts? I have seen fights in the parking lot of this bowling alley so I typically go to the other bowling alley, but it would be nice to know.

Thanks!