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AndyC wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:52 am The AZ hearings made me livid. This is where we fight.

I haven't followed the news lately.

So I went to DuckDuckGo to search for AZ Election Hearings. First result was an article claiming there was no hearing scheduled for 11/30.
Just below video links to clips from Giuliani at that non existent hearing.

Edit: Oh, and this headline was in the top of the results too...

AP FACT CHECK: Trump clings to bevy of bogus election claims

When does the Bogus claim become... well bogus? How many proven cases are required?
I know there hasn't been enough proven to overturn the results yet. But enough have been proven to disprove the bogus claim. These are Facts according to the AP?

parabelum wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:27 pm

philip964 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:34 pm https://apple.news/A7voyX443SMDfTeUJ3bAAkA

More subvert the election stuff.

Just some numbers I looked up:

Trump received 10,823,964 more votes for his second term than for his first term and we are being told he lost.

Obama received 3,582,721 less votes for his second term than for his first term and he still won.

Biden received 13,947,033 more votes running for President than when he last ran for Vice President and we are being told there is no evidence of fraud, because as we know, he is a one awesome campaigner. So much better than his former boss.

As much as I despised Obama, he had very good ground game. To think that ol Joe not only got more votes than Obama but by such a drastic margin is unbelievable to say the least.

I don't know. During Obama's first run he was a blank slate that let people project all their hopes and dreams on him. Second term, not so much so he went down.

Biden stayed in his basement, which kept him from blundering as much as he normally would. They ran on "He's not Trump" which was good enough for a lot of the left. Biden allowed the media(including social media) to run his campaign. He may very well have won. I just wish I had faith in the validity of the election, and in the counting.

One thing is for sure if the current results stand, there won't be as much drive next election for Biden. Unless Trump runs again. I don't think he'll manage to get the nomination if he does try to run. All depends on who steps up. I'd like to see Pence give it a shot.

philip964 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:27 pm

Flightmare wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 6:01 pm I am hoping that the title of this thread gets changed to "Today in Trump's FIRST term as President"....so that we can create a new thread for his 2nd term.

Done

https://news.yahoo.com/why-a-wisconsin- ... 30932.html

Trump demands a recount in Wisconsin.

There needs to be a federal law passed that election laws can't be changed in a state within x number of days of an election. And another for registering voters x number of days before an election. I've never heard of being able to register and vote on election day. Every place I've ever lived would force you to register a certain number of days before the election. I was surprised in TX in 2016 that I could vote with a provisional ballot. I was registered in Kerr county, but had recently moved to Kendall. I was told I could, so I voted early to make sure. But I was prepared to drive to Kerrville to vote. There's something fishy about having 100K or more new voters on an election day that break 100% for any party. It's a statistical impossibility.

And I have no issue with drive up voting. I do have an issue with only doing it in a county that leans one way very hard. I do understand that trying to prevent those votes looks like suppression. But allowing only counties that lean one way to have a different type of voting reeks of partisanship. We should play by the rules set up by the state legislatures when the election started. Not make them up as we go along.

I also have no problem counting mail in ballots post marked before the end of an election. But there should be a very hard date after, and careful checking of the stamp for when it was mailed. It's not like the election was a surprise to anyone. We all had more than ample time to get our ballots in. Personally, I took my mother's ballot (who is in a nursing home and can't leave to vote due to lockdowns) to the post office and had it round stamped. I was unaware of round stamping before this election. Round stamping means they don't put the ballot in the sorting pile. It goes directly into the box for the recipient. I did this a week before the election to make sure it was there in time. Enforcing the rules isn't disenfranchising anyone, It's making sure things are on the up and up.

philip964 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:03 am

Trump wins first debate per Telemundo.

It was a street fight. My view was the moderator lost.

Lots of pics online of devices they were wearing. Trump had a coin looking thing attached to his head under his hair. Biden had wires poking out of his lapel and cuff.

Trumps best point was on police and law and order.

I agree. The moderator lost all control. It was a horrible debate. I think the POTUS could have easily won had he stopped interrupting constantly. The aggressive style works for him. But he looses even some of those who are with him when won't let someone else speak. Bill O'Reilley and Sean Hannity both lost me with the same. I'll still vote for him, but he doesn't pick up as many as he could with that. I really hope the next debate he gets that under check.

Biden did what he needed to, but it wasn't pretty either. He was trying to Trump Trump. Telling him to Shut up, shush, etc... Probably played real well to his base. But I'm not sure that picked up many others either. Worst debate I've ever watched.

philip964 wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 10:20 am
https://apple.news/AK4JS4oJbT-K3kuoHmUHp_A

Trump has a new Covid whistleblower. Demoted for not supporting Trump’s liking Hydroquinene to help with Covid-19.

Testifying before Congress.

Hydroquinene may or may not be the answer. But the extreme pushback, and how even though it's handed out like candy for Lupus and Malaria but is now too dangerous to take... That's pretty shady to me. I'd say it looks like they don't want this to pass. I'd say they won't want it to pass until at least January. Possibly not then when POTUS Trump is still in office.