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n5wd wrote:Here's one other thing to consider, for those of us who think that the hassles of shooting would outweigh the decision not to shoot:

The BG's had the guy's wallet (and his ID, drivers license, which shows his address), and his car keys (which almost certainly had his house/apartment keys attached), and the GG was now a pedestrian so he could not secure his residence against folks who not only had the means, but probably the ability to burglar his house after robbing him at gunpoint.

That much is a fact - here comes the What If's:

Who's back at the house? Wife, child, multiple children? What kinds of things would a guy have in a house that the BG's could get quickly (remember, they now know where he lives and have his keys)?

In this case, it's not just immediate effects that should be considered. Did this enter into his mind when he made the completely legal decision to shoot? Who knows, but I do know that it's one of the things I would be thinking about were I in his position.

Final point: jmra, if I remember correctly, you're not really a fan of the CHL insurance schemes... well, the reason I pay the [Pre-paid legal service] insurance is to help take care of some of the 'hassles' in case I ever have to use a firearm to defend myself or others. Nuff said.

baldeagle wrote:If you're confronted by a BG with a gun, how can you possibly know if he's going to use that gun on you until he's out of sight. You can't. By not drawing and firing, you are assuming that he's going to be a GG and not shoot you. Isn't that a pretty faulty assumption given that he's already proven he's a BG? If someone confronts me with a gun and I have the opportunity, I'm shooting. I'm not going to give him the leeway to decide to turn around and shoot me as he walks away.

I think the thing people are missing here is the level of danger. Because you are a GG you assume everyone thinks that way. They don't. Assuming they do can get you shot, even killed. Is it worth risking your life to assume the BG is actually leaving and won't turn around and shoot you? I'd rather be in court defending myself for having shot a BG than in the hospital or the morgue because I thought he was leaving and wouldn't use the gun I already know he has to shoot me.