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by Katygunnut
Sat Sep 29, 2012 5:43 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Stop and Identify
Replies: 30
Views: 5348

Re: Stop and Identify

Jumping Frog wrote:
A-R wrote:Compared to what? Certainly safer than combat patrol in the sand, and probably safer than some of the more extreme "Dirty Jobs" shown on Mike Rowe's old show, but "safe" is a relative term and I'm just wondering to what you're relating your statement.
It ranks way down the list of dangerous jobs.

There are jobs that are far more dangerous. For example, commercial fisherman

LEO's have a fatality rate of 19.8 per 100,000 workers.

More dangerous profession include:
Farmers and ranchers 36.0
Fishers and related fishing workers 109.5
Logging workers 89.1
Construction laborers 20.8
Roofers 33.4
Structural iron and steel workers 33.4
Electrical power-line installers and repairers 27.6
Driver/sales workers and truck drivers 70.6
Refuse and recyclable material collectors 24.0
Coal mining 24.8
Support activities for mining 24.6
Taxi and limousine service 20.7

http://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfoi/cfoi_rates_2007h.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
You forgot "U.S. President". 43 people have held that job, and 4 of them have been killed in office, making for a fatality rate of 9,302.3 per 100,000 workers.
by Katygunnut
Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:19 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Stop and Identify
Replies: 30
Views: 5348

Re: Stop and Identify

I don't think a request is a demand.

If an officer (or anyone else) asks, "can I please see some identification" they are making a request. This is no different than the LEO asking if they can please take a look in my vehicle, or if they can please come in my house. In the latter cases, they are not demanding to search my car, or to enter my property, they are asking. You can say "no thanks".

Taken to extremes, if a request by a LEO is always a demand, then I sure hope that no uniformed LEO ever asks a store if they can get a discount on their purchase. Such a "demand" could be construed as a misuse of authority.

Now if you respond to the request by saying "no thanks" that might well trigger a demand on the part of the officer if they really, really want to see your ID. So you could always short circuit things and just show your ID in the first place.

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