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by jamisjockey
Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:07 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Concealed Carry Question
Replies: 14
Views: 2032

Re: Concealed Carry Question

CaptWoodrow10 wrote:
srothstein wrote:I think there might be something else to consider. Charles has already posted that he thinks the section referenced (grounds where a school sponsored event is taking place) only is meant to apply to school owned grounds. I cannot find any reasonable grounds to disagree with him and give in to his legal training and knowledge.

But, the OP referred to a high school sporting event. This is slightly different and the premises where this is taking place are off limits. This does invoke the definition of premises as the building, so if it is in one building in a park, other buildings are not affected. I also note that I don't think Charles argument about it only applying to school owned property would hold here. Since it is included with other sporting events that take place in various facilities owned or operated by others, I think it would make the city park building off-limits. But since it only applies to the one building, the rest of the park would not be off limits at the same time.
I follow your reasoning, however I think the lines can be blurred in this situation. The example that came to mind when I first read the OP was that of a tennis match. I've never seen a tennis match being held indoors, or even under a pavilion type structure. This is the type of scenario that could, in my opinion, cause the most grief. The definition of "premises" is crucial here. Case law is needed, and I do not know of any. Of course, I am always willing to learn from those more knowledgeable.
I disagree. We don't need caselaw. We need all of this school and sports stuff removed from CHL law.
by jamisjockey
Thu Mar 03, 2011 3:48 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Concealed Carry Question
Replies: 14
Views: 2032

Re: Concealed Carry Question

j3x wrote:
CaptWoodrow10 wrote:Off limits:

PC §46.03. PLACES WEAPONS PROHIBITED. (a) A person commits
an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly
possesses or goes with a firearm, illegal knife, club, or prohibited weapon
listed in Section 46.05(a):
(1) on the physical premises of a school or educational institution,
any grounds or building on which an activity sponsored by a school or
educational institution is being conducted
, or a passenger transportation
vehicle of a school or educational institution, whether the school or
educational institution is public or private, unless pursuant to written
regulations or written authorization of the institution;

That's how I read it, but I am not a lawyer.
Not that I disagree with you opinion, BUT what if other Non-School related activities or going on in adjacent areas of the City Owned park? Say for example someone with a CHL who goes to the park for a jog or to walk his dog and doesnt even know a school event is taking place?
TPC doesn't make any distinctions about if you know that there is a school event.
(IMHO, all the school bull honkey needs to be written out of the CHL laws.)
It boils down to a whole lotta things happening for you to even get caught carrying at some kind of event, and then it takes a certain kind of cop and DA to press charges. Sooner or later, someone will get put to the test over some of the grey areas in the CHL laws.

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