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baldeagle wrote:

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I sent Mr. Schulman the following letter.

It's amazing to me that someone with legal training and a knowledge of the Constitution can make such ignorant comments about gun ownership. Law abiding citizens who are gun owners licensed to carry are not a threat to you, your city or anyone else.

In Texas, concealed weapon carriers have a better record than law enforcement and members of the legislature. We are orders of magnitude less likely to commit a crime than the average citizen.

Watch the video of your officer's unprofessional and illegal behavior. The driver, who carried a weapon and a permit to carry it, was polite, courteous and represented no threat whatsoever to the officers at any time.

It's time the members of the legal profession either gain an understanding of the Constitution or be disbarred and never allowed to represent anyone again. You demonstrate an appalling ignorance of our basic rights.

Texas Dan Mosby wrote:

When, pray tell, did he have time?

As soon as the supporting officer stuck his nose in the vehicle.

CHL: "Officer..."
LEO: "Shut up!"
CHL: (ASSERTIVE VOICE) "FOR YOUR SITUATIONAL AWARENESS, AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW, I AM REQUIRED TO INFORM YOU THAT AS A LICENSED CHL HOLDER I CURRENTLY HAVE A FIREARM IN MY POSSES ION"


Simple as that, really. Are they going to charge you with using an assertive voice in order to COMPLY WITH THE LAW? If so, I would be willing to bet it wouldn't hold up in a court of law.

While, as I posted before, I do NOT support the unprofessional conduct of the LEO's, I DO believe the CHL holder could have informed them EARLIER than he did. As a juror given the circumstances, however, I would NOT believe he was guilty of failure to notify in accordance with the law.

This video, and similar vids, once again emphasizes the importance of contingency planning and rehearsals prior to a use of force incident, or an LEO contact. Whether it's a simple LEO encounter, reaction to threat without the use of deadly force, or a reaction to threat including the use of deadly force, planning ahead can help a CHL holder develop viable courses of action BEFORE they happen. With this frame work already in mind, it affords the opportunity to act more decisively, effectively, and in accordance with the law with simple adjustments needed for each unique situation, rather than having to develop a whole plan on the spot.

Some of those contingencies we have discussed on this very forum, including actions taken during an LEO stop. Granted, hookers and pimps weren't part of the equation though.