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by OldCurlyWolf
Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:44 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: NY: Police officer shot dead by other officers
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Re: NY: Police officer shot dead by other officers

The Annoyed Man wrote:
Excaliber wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:So why don't plain-clothes officers keep a "Raid Jacket" in their trunk - along with the AR15 - just for scenarios like this? Apparently, the poor guy who got shot had a rifle in his car, "just in case." He might still be alive if he also had a blue windbreaker with "POLICE" in big gold letters on the back, or something like that. To me, it isn't a training issue so much as it is a preparedness issue which falls more squarely on the chain of command than it does on the line officers - even the plain clothed ones. If they had expected an plain clothes officer to carry a rifle in his car, and if they had expected him to respond in his capacity as an LEO in such a situation, then shame on them for not also providing him with some kind of covering to identify him in a shooting scenario as friend, and not foe.
A fluorescent traffic vest with police markings is another viable option for carry in the vehicle.

It's not stealthy, but stealth isn't your biggest concern when you're in plainclothes with uniformed officers responding to your location from multiple directions.
I agree. ANYTHING that would have identified this officer as a good guy would have probably saved his life.

I can think of other situations too. What about if an off-duty LEO uses his gun in the apprehension and/or shooting of a suspect, and uniformed officers roll up while the off-duty guy still has his gun in hand? I think that among other things, the first order of business for this police department is to make sure that all officers are supplied with such a jacket or other identifying cover garment that they can keep in their vehicles for just such occasions.
AM,
Believe me, any officer with a modicum of common sense has ruminated on that scenario. As should any one with a CHL.

I know I have thought about it many times. The scenario, however unlikely to happen, that worries me most is a "Mexican Standoff" where the LEO is unable to see the BG upon arriving at the scene.

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