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by Ameer
Fri Dec 30, 2011 7:04 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Sealed record disclosure
Replies: 23
Views: 5974

Re: Sealed record disclosure

srothstein wrote:Ameer,

In the Court of Criminal Appeals decision (Kurtz) that said that a traffic stop was an arrest, they specifically said it did not rise to the status of a custodial arrest that would trigger Miranda. The key point is that Miranda does not say you must be warned of your rights when you are arrested, but when you are being asked questions while in custody whether arrested or not.
Thank you Steve. What about that cliche question, "Do you know how fast you were going?"

Unless we're free to ignore the flashing blue lights and keep driving, it seems like we're in custody during a traffic stop. I'm speaking of the Plain English meaning of the words not Lawyerish. Now that I think of it, that may be my problem. :lol:
by Ameer
Sun Dec 25, 2011 2:44 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Sealed record disclosure
Replies: 23
Views: 5974

Re: Sealed record disclosure

Dragonfighter wrote:Isn't a ticket an arrest? Granted I am going on 50 year old terminology, but my dad (who had been an Ohio Higway Patrol officer) came home and told his wife and six year old son that he had been arrested. I had visions of cuffs and jail and he explained to me that when an officer stops and cites you, you have been arrested and released with a promise to answer the charge.
It depends who you ask. The CHL department only wants arrests where you were fingerprinted and booked. They don't need you to lists tickets or citations.

But I also heard a traffic stop is technically an arrest. If so, shouldn't cops technically have to read the Miranda rights?

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